[Helmer]

Scoring: MP

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Bidding:

West  North  East  South

1♣    pass   1♠      2♦

2♠    pass   3♣      pass

3NT   dbl    rdbl     pass

pass  pass

Well this board gave us 0% - as 11 tricks were made after ♥10 lead, the Jack in dummy took the trick and declarer played ♣7 taking the trick.

Again - please vote, and make a comment.

[han]

I don't like the 2D call, but the double is just wrong.

[mikeh]

Jlall, on Feb 22 2006, 06:07 PM, said:

Hate north's double. He has no club stopper, horrible spade spots (so the opps can take 3-4 tricks there), no fitting diamond honor (so you can't run that suit) and no values overall.

When the opponents freely bid 3N you need a surprise to double them.

As for 2D, it's not my style but I know several winning bridge players who believe in bids like this (levin/weinstein are the main advocates of light 2 level overcalls that I know of). 2D has many ways to win. It is mainly a partnerhsip thing, my partners would expect more. Still, regardless of what my partners expected from 2D they would not X 3N with the north hand.

as above; altho I am closer to 2♦ than Justin is.

I am surprised that the doubler thought that his partner was to blame: double is indefensible, as well as lacking any intrinsic defensive value

[Free]

North has nothing, he deserves nothing more than 0%.

[mike777]

I think this hand is much deeper than most of the others.

Many good players play 2D as basically 6 cards/random hcp/weak in this situation, but newer players may play it as a solid opening 14+hcp hand with a great suit. Trusting partner and not the opponents North Doubles.

I think many of these "who do you blame" posts go back to this main issue, what does a free bid, free raise in competition show, something or as most argue in the forum ...not much........

Note the discussion of 2D is clear, 2D is close, 2D is not close.....

[joshs]

Helmer, on Feb 22 2006, 05:49 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

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Bidding:

West  North  East  South

1♣    pass   1♠      2♦

2♠    pass   3♣      pass

3NT   dbl    rdbl     pass

pass  pass

Well this board gave us 0% - as 11 tricks were made after ♥10 lead, the Jack in dummy took the trick and declarer played ♣7 taking the trick.

Again - please vote, and make a comment.

Exactly how many mps would you have gotten for 3N undoubled making 5? Assuming that 2S showed 4 cards, then you know that the opps are not in a field contract, and suspect that they are better off in that cotract than the normal one. In this situation, it is sometimes right to make a tactical x, hoping to chase them back into there major suit fit....

Anyway, the 2D bid was light, especially red. Its not a rediculous bid, but it is dangerous if your partnership doesn't allow light bids with extreme shortness in the opps suit in this position. Personally, give south both minor suit ten's also and I would have bid 2D. As it is, its slightly below what I am willing to bid on.

So I actually have sympathy for both players actions. North expected a slightly better hand/suit from south (the opps did bid up to 3N so they should have close to enough points), and you want to scare the opps out of 3N. If east didn't xx, it probably would have worked. (P.S. have your partnerships discussed what this xx means? Many play it as "I am really not sure about this partner....")

[Miron]

2♦ are a bit weaker but void and 6-card, OK to me.
Double is just wrong: spades before spades, hearts never bid by opps (will be divided) and just four of them. Partner has just diamonds and they have clubs. In best case partner has 4 clubs.
Doubler is (the only one) guilty.

[joker_gib]

2♦ in sandwich with that is not for me.

Dbl is non sense

Alain

[Gerben42]

Double was horrible. Left alone they probably would've bid the normal 4♠ but now it gave them a chance to make a top even if 3NT would make less tricks than 4♠!

If they stick in 3NT nothing you can do about it though.

[hotShot]

Well 2♦ is a bid light, but it is a 6 card suit and it has a void, so it is ok.
But dbl makes no sence at all. The k♠ is worthless, placed in front of he ♠ bid. The hand just does not have enough defence tricks.

[P_Marlowe]

Are you serious, asking this question, which
has an obvious answer (the doubler)?

If you dont like your partner stopp playing
with him, but do not humilitate him with the
help of this forum.

Marlowe