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Major Two-Suiter: 1Lvl, 2Lvl or Pass? what is your style/opinion

Poll: What do you open? (23 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you open?

  1. Pass (1 votes [4.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

  2. 1S (19 votes [82.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 82.61%

  3. 2D (weak two Hearts or GF) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 2H (weak 5+5+ incl. Hearts) (3 votes [13.04%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.04%

  5. 2S (weak two Spades) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Sigi_BC84 

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Posted 2006-February-23, 18:51

1st seat, you are playing IMPs, none vul (actually this shouldn't matter too much IMO).

You hold: AKJxx J10xxx x Qx

You are playing SAYC with gadgets, and have the option to open 2 showing any 5/5 or better hand including hearts, below opening strength (your other preempt options are weak twos in , and ). The weak two are actually assumed to be disciplined and contain 6 cards.

What do you do and why?

This might look trivial or purely a matter of style, but we had a discussion about this so I'm interested in any opinions, however subjective.

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Posted 2006-February-23, 19:43

1S, I am a sound opener and don't think this hand is close to below opening strength.
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Posted 2006-February-23, 19:52

Likewise, but I'm not a sound opener.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2006-February-23, 21:22

Addition to the above: In the discussion mentioned it was argued that the 2 opener can be seen as a semi-constructive device (for me it's a preempt) and might well be used with that holding and position.

(Possible follow-ups to 2 are NF 2, 2NT asks strength/2nd suit, else nat forcing).

What do you think of this?

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Posted 2006-February-24, 01:56

Too much to preempt : I open 1

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Posted 2006-February-24, 02:13

I don't preempt with 11 points on 5-5 majors and just Q outside long suits. One my friend has this attitude (and where we are playing together our 2nd level are different for 2 points ;) ).
Clear 1 for me, but I know people who would bid 2.
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Posted 2006-February-24, 04:02

Just too much for a preempt. Without the Q go ahead and open both majors weak, and even then Ben will say he will open 1 (but not me).
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Posted 2006-February-24, 08:21

easy 1 imo
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Posted 2006-February-24, 11:23

Easy pass I don't see 3QT :D.
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Posted 2006-February-24, 11:45

1 for me: a horrible hand and 1 is an overbid but 2 would be a bigger underbid, and passing (with all respect to our Dr. Roth clone) is silly.

Another point against the 2 bid: this hand is only secondarily about : this hand is primarily about .
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Posted 2006-February-24, 11:55

mikeh, on Feb 24 2006, 08:45 PM, said:

1 for me: a horrible hand and 1 is an overbid but 2 would be a bigger underbid, and passing (with all respect to our Dr. Roth clone) is silly.

Another point against the 2 bid: this hand is only secondarily about : this hand is primarily about .

I think that Mike raises a very good point: Your spades suit is much stronger that your heart suit. Accordingly, I prefer an opening which emphasizes Spades.

In many ways, this opening reminds me of the old Wilkosz 2. The Poles scored some great successes with this bid over the years. As I recall, the main of the best results occured when the Poles were able to avoid a 1M opening. Many players using more standard methods couldn't bear to pass the juciy 5-5 hand and got overboard.

From my perspective, this hand is a borderline opening bid. Opening 1 is nice and you have an easy rebid in Hearts, however, you don't have that great defense. As I noted, forced to chose between 1 and 2, I'd open 1. However, switch the suits and I'd probably open 2 instead.
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