[Echognome]

Scoring: MP

P - (P) - 1♥ - (1♠)
P - (P) - 2♦ - (P)
?

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So what is it? Pass, 2♥, or 3♣?

[mike777]

object prefer 2clubs last round if pard rebids 2d, I rebid 2H.

[P_Marlowe]

3C.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Free]

Pass: partner doesn't have a TO double, so he's probably quite short in ♣ and has some ♠s. Probably better to stay low, and I guess chance is higher that p has a 5 card ♦ than a 6 card ♥.

I also prefer 2♣ on the previous round, but when the agreements don't allow it, what you gonna do?

[helene_t]

Free, on Feb 16 2007, 12:58 PM, said:

Pass: partner doesn't have a TO double, so he's probably quite short in ♣ and has some ♠s.

He could also have failed to double because he's void in spades, couldn't he? Ths probably depends on agreement.

If Frederick's assumption is correct, I agree with pass.

[matmat]

and i did not bid 1nt to start with why?

or even 3c? or maybe even 2c as it is now limited (though still f1)...

given this choice i try 3c

[pclayton]

Free, on Feb 16 2007, 02:58 AM, said:

Pass: partner doesn't have a TO double, so he's probably quite short in ♣ and has some ♠s.  Probably better to stay low, and I guess chance is higher that p has a 5 card ♦ than a 6 card ♥.

I also prefer 2♣ on the previous round, but when the agreements don't allow it, what you gonna do? 

Ditto, although I disagree this is a 2♣ call, unless I'm playing NFB (please, no).

Pard is probably 3=5=5=0. Even with a strong 1=5=5=2, or even a 2=5=5=1, I think a negative x is OK, converting a club call to ♦'s.

Helene - my partners have no fear about balancing with a double holding a void. I don't care what Marty Bergen says; doubles are for takeout, and the more he has in the unbid suits, the better.

My biggest fear about passing 2♦ isn't that we are in a bad contract, its that we are making 3N on power, with say: ♠KQx, ♥AKTxx, ♦AKxxx, void. Hands like this do not guarantee 3N; and this kind of power approaches a 3♦ call over 1♠.

[brianshark]

I think I'd bid 2♥.

[temp3600]

I pass, for the same reasons mentioned by several previous posters : partner is likely to have a few spades, be very short in clubs, and 5-5 in the red suits.

[whereagles]

Obvious 3♣ bid for me

[Edmunte1]

First pass was OK. 3♣ is ok now, as Justin pointed out the weak hand should play the board with his long suit as trumps.

[Echognome]

Scoring: MP

P - P - 1♥ - 1♠
P - P - 2♦ - P
2♥ - All Pass

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This was just an ugly hand for our side. I certainly didn't make the right call here as 2♥ is looking at a very narrow target. One good junior commented later "I pass as I don't want to encourage partner in any way." And I liked that reasoning. I thought 3♣ would be reasonable but at the tables where that happened it went for 1100. Note that one hand does not make a general rule.

I think the reasoning that partner didn't reopen with a double should scare us. Either he has a spade void (and why didn't LHO raise?) or he's very short in clubs. For example with most 1=5=5=2 hands, I think he should reopen with a double. He can always correct a 2♣ bid to 2♦ and be no worse off or decide to let partner play 2♣ undoubled.

Any way partner can figure out to pass 1♠? At MP I thought it was difficult.

As it was, -300 was an average minus.

[cherdano]

I disagree with many of the comments in this thread. I would always rebid 2♦ with a minimal opener and 5-5 in the red suits. I would double and pull to 2♦ only with stronger hands.

I am a little surprised as I thought that was a common style, or even standard. When you are 5-5 and minimum in high cards, you won't like it when partner passes your double, you won't like it if he jumps in clubs, and as an upside you can make a distinction between minimal and intermediate 5-5s.

Arend

[Echognome]

cherdano, on Feb 19 2007, 11:18 PM, said:

I disagree with many of the comments in this thread. I would always rebid 2♦ with a minimal opener and 5-5 in the red suits. I would double and pull to 2♦ only with stronger hands.

I am a little surprised as I thought that was a common style, or even standard. When you are 5-5 and minimum in high cards, you won't like it when partner passes your double, you won't like it if he jumps in clubs, and as an upside you can make a distinction between minimal and intermediate 5-5s.

Arend

I think it's simple. You don't reopen with a double if you can't stand partner passing the double. Don't you find:

Ax Axxxx Axxxx x

and

--- KQJxx KQJxx xxx

to be very different hands for deciding whether to reopen or double?

[cherdano]

Echo, I agree with what you say. I disagree with those who claim partner "must have" (or is very likely to have) club shortness for his 2♦ bid.

[han]

Echognome, on Feb 16 2007, 01:12 PM, said:

good junior

An oxymoron?