[Fluffy]

(E) - N - (W) - S
ps-1♣-1♥-2♥
ps-4NT



You will probably argue that you have 3♥ for the strong one, but both are strong, so both could use 3♥ instead

If you need your cards: ♠Kxx♥xx♦Kxx♣AJ9xx

[pbleighton]

It would be Blackwood.

Your cards aren't nearly good enough for any kind of slam try, assuming 2H shows an invitational or better club raise. You have a balanced minimum, wide open in hearts. Rebid 3C.

Peter

[Fluffy]

pbleighton, on Feb 19 2007, 07:42 PM, said:

It would be Blackwood.

Your cards aren't nearly good enough for any kind of slam try, assuming 2H shows an invitational or better club raise. You have a balanced minimum, wide open in hearts. Rebid 3C.

Peter

Sorry I might not have explained it very well, your hand is the 2♥ bidder's cards.

[han]

Fit -> blackwood.

[EricK]

Hannie, on Feb 20 2007, 03:13 AM, said:

Fit -> blackwood.

But what about if ♣ are trumps 4NT is never Blackwood. That is a much more useful agreement if you ask me.

[P_Marlowe]

BW, although I wonder why partner did not bid 4C,
natural and forcing.

Having this option available, it makes probably
sense to play 4NT as nat.
On the other hand 2H may well be based on shape,
at least partially, and opener has no chance to know.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[helene_t]

P_Marlowe, on Feb 20 2007, 10:57 AM, said:

BW, although I wonder why partner did not bid 4C,
natural and forcing.

Yes but if all he needs to know is your number of keycards, he might as well avoid control bidding which could be doubled for the lead.

I agree with Eric that 4NT should never be RKC for clubs, but quanti doesn't make much sense either. If 2♥ is invitational+ 4NT may not be safe and if it's GF an 18-19 hand could start with 2NT.

[mike777]

helene_t, on Feb 20 2007, 05:16 AM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Feb 20 2007, 10:57 AM, said:

BW, although I wonder why partner did not bid 4C,
natural and forcing.

Yes but if all he needs to know is your number of keycards, he might as well avoid control bidding which could be doubled for the lead.

I agree with Eric that 4NT should never be RKC for clubs, but quanti doesn't make much sense either. If 2♥ is invitational+ 4NT may not be safe and if it's GF an 18-19 hand could start with 2NT.

All of this is way too complicated for me if I am playing with a WC pickup partner.
If they expect me to know that 4nt is natural or 2nt is 18-19 hcp we are in big trouble. rkc for clubs I would guess.

Of course if we have discussed this one auction before sitting down together, no problem but willing to bet we have not.

[Fluffy]

On this one I just held

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I could concern that 4NT could be played as natural (looking at the poll I was not far from right), therefore would not ever dream to bid a non forcing one below the 6 level .

Instead of the clean 4NT-XX-5NT-XX-7NT I ended up bidding a pedestrian:
4♣-5♣ (I should had suposed this one before )
5♦-5♠
6♥-7♣
7NT

Thank god ♣A wasn't missing

[pclayton]

Its key card to me. All balanced hands start with 2N (which is forcing through 3 of our minor).

[whereagles]

4NT is whatever I've agreed with pard. Oh wait, you mean you don't have any agreement?

[BebopKid]

I vote for misbid.