I have no clue on this one, myself....
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Battling Pre-empts...Alternate Reality
#3
Posted 2007-June-27, 15:40
X, if partner bids Diamonds you are strong enough to
bid spades, if he bids a mayor you are happy, if
he passes (not likely, but sometimes he may for lack
of options), you are happy as well.
With kind regards
Marlowe
bid spades, if he bids a mayor you are happy, if
he passes (not likely, but sometimes he may for lack
of options), you are happy as well.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#5
Posted 2007-June-27, 17:53
double
I am a big believer in bidding 3N over preempts with offshape hands, but only when the alternatives are either unpalatable or offer fewer ways to win.
Thus, with AJxxx x KQxx AJx... I'd bid 3N. 3♠ eliminates 3N, which rates to be the best game, and double virtually invites a ♥ call, and whether that is 3 or 4 level still leaves me overbidding... correcting 3♥ to 3♠ or 3N (you pick) misdescribes your hand and correcting 4♥ to 4♠ is a big overbid.
But here, we have two clear ways to win via double: partner can bid either major and we are ecstatic... compared to 3N... he is NOT bidding even a 6 card major over 3N, since we'd all bid 3N with some (31)=6=3 or (31)=7=2 with running ♦s,as an example.
3N only has one way to win.
Conversely, doubling will lose only if he insists upon ♦s, and not even always then... we may still be able to successfully correct to ♠s.. and bidding 3N has several ways to lose, including missing a major game or slam or seeing them run the ♦ suit: LHO with x xx KQx KQxxxxx leads the surprising ♦K and catches partner with QJxx KJxxx xxx x.
I am a big believer in bidding 3N over preempts with offshape hands, but only when the alternatives are either unpalatable or offer fewer ways to win.
Thus, with AJxxx x KQxx AJx... I'd bid 3N. 3♠ eliminates 3N, which rates to be the best game, and double virtually invites a ♥ call, and whether that is 3 or 4 level still leaves me overbidding... correcting 3♥ to 3♠ or 3N (you pick) misdescribes your hand and correcting 4♥ to 4♠ is a big overbid.
But here, we have two clear ways to win via double: partner can bid either major and we are ecstatic... compared to 3N... he is NOT bidding even a 6 card major over 3N, since we'd all bid 3N with some (31)=6=3 or (31)=7=2 with running ♦s,as an example.
3N only has one way to win.
Conversely, doubling will lose only if he insists upon ♦s, and not even always then... we may still be able to successfully correct to ♠s.. and bidding 3N has several ways to lose, including missing a major game or slam or seeing them run the ♦ suit: LHO with x xx KQx KQxxxxx leads the surprising ♦K and catches partner with QJxx KJxxx xxx x.
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#6
Posted 2007-June-27, 18:10
Double looks like it has good odds, but what is everyone bidding over 3♦? I would bid 3N.
The easiest way to count losers is to line up the people who talk about loser count, and count them. -Kieran Dyke
#7
Posted 2007-June-27, 18:34
You're too good for 3♠, so that leaves Dbl...
"It may be rude to leave to go to the bathroom, but it's downright stupid to sit there and piss yourself" - blackshoe
#8
Posted 2007-June-27, 18:36
jtfanclub, on Jun 27 2007, 04:19 PM, said:
Scoring: MP
3 Clubs pass pass to you.
3 Clubs pass pass to you.
I have no clue on this one, myself....
IMO X = 10, 3 N = 6, 3 ♠ = 4
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