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Echognome, on Jun 26 2007, 02:25 AM, said:
I don't want to include the hands here as any bias.
Just wanted any opinions on whether pass is forcing here for you:
P - (P) - 1♣ - (1♥)
3♣* - (Dbl)** - 3NT - (P)
P - (4♣) - Dbl - (4♥)
?
*Preemptive
** Responsive
No questions were asked about the 4♣ bid.
Just wanted any opinions on whether pass is forcing here for you:
P - (P) - 1♣ - (1♥)
3♣* - (Dbl)** - 3NT - (P)
P - (4♣) - Dbl - (4♥)
?
*Preemptive
** Responsive
No questions were asked about the 4♣ bid.
I think pass is clearly forcing. Game forcing auctions imply forcing passes. A freely bid game implies a game forcing auction. While 3N might be a tactical bid, and a subtle advanced save over some 3 level contract of there's, the presumption without some understanding to the contrary (which should be alerted) was that 3N bids are allways based on a belief that 3N will make.
I don't think the x of 4C changes anything, except that it clarify's responder's hand type (not that there was that much doubt as to the hand type before--there was too much bidding, and opener showed no inclination to defend).
As to what bids mean now:
x is penalty, pass is forcing (so takeoutish). Yes its possible to invert these in the direct seat if you have specific agreements about pass/double inversion in high level forcing auctions.
Now that I look further in the thread, well I guess there was doubt about opener's hand type, since the 3N was a missbid, and xx was clear....