[Edmunte1]

You hold in second seat, at unfavorable:

Scoring: IMP

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And bidding goes:
(1♣) - pass - (pass) - 1♥
(1♠) - ?

- 1♠ promises at least 4-4 in the black suits
What's your choice now and why?

[han]

I'm thinking about 2NT (limit+ with 4 trumps) and 4D (splinter). I don't want to bury partner for balancing but we need so little for game...

[foo]

Hannie, on Jul 5 2007, 08:12 AM, said:

I'm thinking about 2N (limit+ with 4 trumps) and 4D (splinter). I don't want to bury partner for balancing but we need so little for game...

♠ QT2 ♥ KJ93 ♦ 2 ♣ AKT82

(1♣) - pa - (pa) - 1♥;
(1♠!) - ??
- 1♠ promises at least 4-4 in the black suits

Which is why I'm simply bidding the game. Everything rates to be favorably placed for Us.

[Codo]

3 ♣ 2 ♣ 2 NT whatever shows inv+ with Hearts. Do I really need more then
Jx, AQxxx,xxx,xxx to make 4 Heart? And this example hand is quite weak for his bid. We may even have a slam opposite Kx, AQxxx,Axxx,Qxx - not that we are favourites to bid it, but I will surely bid at least game. And if he looks at xxx,AQxxx, KQJx,x and we fail to make it, so what.

[skjaeran]

4♥.
Stopping on a dime in 3♥ just making is too small a target for me at IMPs. I don't invite in these situations, just punt game.

[TimG]

Hannie, on Jul 5 2007, 08:12 AM, said:

I'm thinking about 2NT (limit+ with 4 trumps) and 4D (splinter). I don't want to bury partner for balancing but we need so little for game...

I think 2NT could lead to trouble -- partner could (perhaps reasonably) think that I have a strongish hand unsuitable for a direct NT overcall.

I think those wanting to invite game are missing the problem: we could have a slam (is x Axxxxx Axxx xx enough?). But, I think I'd give up on that and bid a practical 4♥.

[Fluffy]

I'd bid 2♠ because I don't knwo if 2♣ is natural

[Echognome]

I'm just going to bid 4♥. I don't want the opponents to be able to collect themselves any further. If opponents decide to bid again over this, then I will have the red card waiting.

[mike777]

Edmunte1, on Jul 5 2007, 08:00 AM, said:

You hold in second seat, at unfavorable:

Dealer: East Vul: N/S Scoring: IMP

♠ Q102 ♥ KJ93 ♦ 2 ♣ AK1082

And bidding goes:
(1♣) - pass - (pass) - 1♥
(1♠) -  ?

- 1♠ promises at least 4-4 in the black suits
What's your choice now and why?

2s now

really dislike a direct 4h, that would be much weaker hand for me. Less defense.

prefer direct 1heart over one club and get this hand off my chest and not trap pass.

[pclayton]

I'm jamming this to game, and if 4♦ is a splinter, thats my bid - otherwise 4♥. I don't want LHO to make a cheap raise of spades.

Lots of diamonds unaccounted for here.

[cnszsun]

I play fit-jump, but i'm not sure what 4♦ is. If you have a reasonable ♦ suit and some vaules, maybe you've bid last round.
Anyway, i like to bid 4♥. It must show a good hand rather than a weak hand at this kind of sequence.
Also facing a balancing 1♥ overcall, i don't think slam is that great, otherwise a splinter 4♦ bid is perfect.

[whereagles]

I'll cue and bid 3♥ next.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

make a inv.+ raise, that shows what you have
an opening hand with support, i never know,
is it 2C or 2S?

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Halo]

4H

With just one opponent in the auction, I don't feel I need to show defence on the way. I assume partner hasn't got a red two-suiter, so there probably aren't slam prospects to protect.

[pclayton]

cnszsun, on Jul 5 2007, 07:12 PM, said:

I play fit-jump, but i'm not sure what 4♦ is. If you have a reasonable ♦ suit and some vaules, maybe you've bid last round.
Anyway, i like to bid 4♥. It must show a good hand rather than a weak hand at this kind of sequence.
Also facing a balancing 1♥ overcall, i don't think slam is that great, otherwise a splinter 4♦ bid is perfect.

This is an excellent point. Its just about impossible to hold a hand where you need to make a fit jump here, because you didn't overcall the last round. Yet, I hate to make excpetions for these auctions - but this may be just out of laziness.

4♦ logically should be a splinter then, even where "all" jumps are fitted.

[nige1]

Edmunte1, on Jul 5 2007, 08:00 AM, said:

You hold in second seat, at unfavorable:

Dealer: East Vul: N/S Scoring: IMP

♠ Q102 ♥ KJ93 ♦ 2 ♣ AK1082

And bidding goes:
(1♣) _P (_P)  1♥
(1♠)  ?

- 1♠ promises at least 4-4 in the black suits
What's your choice now and why?

IMO 4♦ = 10, 3♣ = 9, 2♠ = 8, 2N = 7, 4♥ = 6, 3♥ = 3. (assuming that fit-jumps and splinters apply in this context). If you act in accord with the bible (Robson & Seagal version) , then 2N shows a pudding raise, so is less appropriate on this hand

[han]

Assuming that 4D is a splinter, why are so many people who want to force too game rejecting this option?

[foo]

Hannie, on Jul 7 2007, 07:49 AM, said:

Assuming that 4D is a splinter, why are so many people who want to force to game rejecting this option?

Because a splinter is basically a shape based slam probe that promises a 9+ card trump fit.

[helene_t]

If 4♦ must be a splinter due to my failure to bid before, then 3/4♣ must be a fitbid by the same argument. I'll bid some clubs if p is on that wavelength as well.

Otherwise I just bid 4♥. Neandertal bidding always has its charm.