[mike777]

MickyB, on Nov 30 2007, 08:27 AM, said:

Wow...two votes apiece for Klinger, Bergen and Rosencranz. Surely not?

In the absence of Rexford, Collier, Meyerson et al I voted for Kokish - He may not have been as revolutionary as someone like Roth, but his ability to make reasonable players into exceptional partnerships is impressive. Roth, on the other hand, appeared to have some bizarre ideas to go along with his good ones!

?

How many other players won as much as Roth did at the highest levels with so many different partners?

[han]

MickyB, on Nov 30 2007, 08:27 AM, said:

Wow...two votes apiece for Klinger, Bergen and Rosencranz. Surely not?

I made a troll vote.

[hrothgar]

mike777, on Nov 30 2007, 04:50 PM, said:

How many other players won as much as Roth did at the highest levels with so many different partners?

Hamman is a phenomenal player

He has great practical skill at declarer play, defense, and (yes) bidding.
I don't think that anyone would describe him as a "bidding theorist"

[foo]

CC Wei does not belong on this list. He =hired= theorists, including some on that list, to invent Precision for him. CC Wei was a =client=.

That does not take away from his major contribution in seeing to it that Precision exists and is the single most played system in the world (since Precision is Chinese Standard and Bridge is taught in the public grammer schools in China).

Also, Hamman is a fine player, but he is very much !not! a bidding theorist.

People not on this list who should be
George Rapee- who is the NA inventor of Stayman (Marx gets the nod on the other side of The Puddle)

Dave Carter- who invented the transfers Oswald Jacoby got named after him.

Dave Cliff- who invented relays, Uncontested IJS by Responder, etc

Bobby Goldman- whose work on Aces Scientific became the world's 2nd most played system: 2/1 GF.

and numerous others who I can't think of ATM

[blackshoe]

I don't even remember this thread, and I never voted in it. So I added a vote for Al Roth. But I think several people are missing from the list:

Albert Morehead
Norman Squire
Eric Crowhurst

Others have mentioned a few, too.

[phil_20686]

blackshoe, on 2012-August-14, 07:18, said:

I don't even remember this thread, and I never voted in it. So I added a vote for Al Roth. But I think several people are missing from the list:

Albert Morehead
Norman Squire
Eric Crowhurst

Others have mentioned a few, too.

Incredibly random necro?

[kenrexford]

csdenmark, on 2007-November-28, 17:59, said:

I wonder the reason why these are missing on the proposed list:

- Harold S. Vanderbilt, creator of club systems
- Eugenio Chiaradia, chief theorist behind Blue Team, which was the most successful team ever
- Bobby Goldman, creator of Scientific Aces which is the basis for the most popular system approach today 2o1
- Lukasz Slawinskii, creator of 8-12/pass systems

Most of the persons on the list I see most as moderators of others inventions but not as theorists.

Claus Sønderkøge

Mats Nilsland also probably deserves a mention?

[Siegmund]

Maybe its time to try a new poll with an improved selection of names

But it's always going to be hard to get results without everybody knowing who invented what.

[blackshoe]

phil_20686, on 2012-August-14, 08:30, said:

Incredibly random necro?

Yes. Is there a law against it?

[Phil]

How did I leave Ken Rexford off of here?

[Scarabin]

Results seem weird: No mention of Giorgi Belladonna, surely the recognised leading bidding theoretician of the Blue team? Also seem heavily skewed in favour of present day experts, what about Stern, author of the Vienna system? An awful lot of modern big club, relay systems developed from this. Surely Fred rates a vote before many of the people on the list?