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#1
Posted 2008-June-13, 09:37
♠752
♥Q72
♦Q76
♣QJ83
1♥-(pass)-2♣(1)-(pass)
2♥(2)-(pass)-3NT(3)-all pass
(1) 2♦ would have shown 5+
(2) normally 6+
(3) 15-17
Your lead
#2
Posted 2008-June-13, 09:40
#3
Posted 2008-June-13, 09:41
It's ♠ or ♦.
Partner did not follow 1♠ and I have more to offer in diamonds.
Finding your own mistakes is more productive than looking for partner's. It improves your game and is good for your soul. (Nige1)
#4
Posted 2008-June-13, 10:47
We are all connected to each other biologically, to the Earth chemically, and to the rest of the universe atomically.
We're in the universe, and the universe is in us.
#5 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2008-June-13, 11:53
#6
Posted 2008-June-13, 12:41
Am I to understand that a 2♦ bid would have shown 5 or more diamonds, and that the 2♣ call is a "catch-all" bid with a game forcing hand but no suit to bid (other than clubs, perhaps)? The explanation is not very clear.
#7
Posted 2008-June-13, 12:46
♦Q.
#8 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2008-June-13, 12:47
xcurt, on Jun 13 2008, 01:46 PM, said:
♦Q.
I bet you get bottoms a lot, and some tops too...but nothing in between!
#9
Posted 2008-June-13, 12:55
ArtK78, on Jun 13 2008, 02:41 PM, said:
Yes, exactly.
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What part of "2♦ would have shown 5+" was unclear?
#10
Posted 2008-June-13, 13:11
Jlall, on Jun 13 2008, 01:47 PM, said:
xcurt, on Jun 13 2008, 01:46 PM, said:
♦Q.
I bet you get bottoms a lot, and some tops too...but nothing in between!
Actually I almost never do this. I never sit down with the mentality that I'm outclassed and I don't swing unnecessarily.
But I really feel like this is the time to try something. If I exit passively or worse lead a low diamond, declarer will clear hearts, get back in, and run hearts. After 6 rounds of hearts and two side tricks, which 5 cards am I keeping? I'll probably get thrown in to lead from my diamond anyway, so I might as well burn the queen at trick 1.
Plus by leading the Q declarer might misplay with split honors and partner having the J.
#11
Posted 2008-June-13, 13:24
Apollo81, on Jun 13 2008, 01:55 PM, said:
ArtK78, on Jun 13 2008, 02:41 PM, said:
Yes, exactly.
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What part of "2♦ would have shown 5+" was unclear?
The fact that you didn't say anything about the strength of a 2/1 bid or what other bids meant. "GF" might have helped, and the fact that 2♣ did not promise clubs but denied 4 spades, 5 diamonds, or a direct heart raise of some sort might have helped.
#12
Posted 2008-June-13, 13:37
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I said RHO showed 15-17, whether the 2/1 was F1 or GF is irrelevant.
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Obviously RHO does not have any of these things when he bid 3NT. Whether 2♣ denied them or not is irrelevant.
#13
Posted 2008-June-13, 14:30
Queen of clubs.
#14
Posted 2008-June-13, 14:47
Apollo81, on Jun 13 2008, 02:37 PM, said:
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I said RHO showed 15-17, whether the 2/1 was F1 or GF is irrelevant.
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Obviously RHO does not have any of these things when he bid 3NT. Whether 2♣ denied them or not is irrelevant.
It can be useful to know what the bids meant at the time that they were made.
By the way, exactly how large is the chip on your shoulder?
#15
Posted 2008-June-14, 16:29
the club position was Kx on left, T9xx on right and partner has Jx hearts
#16
Posted 2008-June-15, 08:15
Apollo81, on Jun 13 2008, 10:37 AM, said:
1♥-(pass)-2♣(1)-(pass)
2♥(2)-(pass)-3NT(3)-all pass
(1) 2♦ would have shown 5+
(2) normally 6+
(3) 15-17
Your lead
IMO ♠ = 10, ♦ = 7, ♣ = 4, ♥ = 1
Admittedly, declarer may have 4 ♠ but dummy is certain to be minor-suited with at least 4 ♣ -- probably 3235 but 3244 at least - so Apollo81's ♣ lead smacks of divine inspiration
#18
Posted 2008-June-15, 12:53
Apollo81, on Jun 15 2008, 12:58 PM, said:

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