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#1 User is offline   A2003 

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Posted 2008-August-09, 17:12

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1♣1♠pass ?



What is my bid here?
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Posted 2008-August-09, 20:39

I will start with a cuebid 2c..easy so far......my next bid may be very tough.
As an unpassed hand cuebid does not promise support 100%, it is a general force, tell me more partner bid.

Btw who is dealer EW or NS , it is important.
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Posted 2008-August-09, 21:29

2NT natural wtp.
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Posted 2008-August-10, 01:57

I loathe 2 Clubs. I shudder at the thought.

I'll stick a Diamond in with my Hearts and bid 2♥ followed by NT if I get another chance at an appropriate level. I can live with 2NT or 3NT.
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Posted 2008-August-10, 15:14

2NT seems really normal to me, if partner has a singleton club he won't pass anyway.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-August-11, 01:58

2C.

The advantage is, I give partner maximal
room for describing his hand further.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2008-August-11, 07:51

jdonn, on Aug 10 2008, 04:14 PM, said:

2NT seems really normal to me, if partner has a singleton club he won't pass anyway.

lol, the second part of this sentence is blatantly false, agree with the first part though.
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Posted 2008-August-11, 09:48

Jlall, on Aug 11 2008, 08:51 AM, said:

jdonn, on Aug 10 2008, 04:14 PM, said:

2NT seems really normal to me, if partner has a singleton club he won't pass anyway.

lol, the second part of this sentence is blatantly false, agree with the first part though.

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Posted 2008-August-11, 23:20

For me a 2 over 1 isnt forcing so 2C is a general force up to 2nt and its the only bid for me. I see no reason to lose the first 5/6 tricks in 2Nt/3Nt when you have a much safer alternative.

(1C)---1S-----(P)------2C
(P)-----2S-----(P)------2Nt isnt forcing.
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Posted 2008-August-12, 05:55

I don't like 2NT. It isn't forcing. Partner has 8-16 HCP, so I can expect him to bid further with 12/13-16, but not with less.

As ugly as it looks, 2♣ is the only meaningful bid, followed by 2NT. Now partner will bid 3NT if his hand is in the upper two thirds of his range, not just the upper half :P
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Posted 2008-August-12, 06:10

2♣ if that is a generic strong bid, 2♦ if it's forcing, otherwise 2♥. I think if a 2/1 is NF you need 2♣ as a generic force. If p is 5332 and minimum he will rebid 2♠ over 2♣. I can then try 2NT.

I am not so fond of a direct 2NT. P will often pass when we belong in diamonds or hearts.
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Posted 2008-August-12, 08:22

2C=transfer to D...then 2H...1 round force
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Posted 2008-August-12, 09:52

ochinko, on Aug 12 2008, 06:55 AM, said:

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As ugly as it looks, 2♣ is the only meaningful bid,
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Just to get my post count up, why looks 2C ugly?

We learn, if partner is dead min, or has something to spare,
we learn if he has a 4 card side suit, we may even learn, he
has a 6 carder, beside the last point, we learn all those listed
things below 2NT.

I agree, the cue would look ugly, if clubs would be exchanged
with hearts, i.e. they opened 1H, or if partner overcalled
1D, since we are burning the whole 2 level, but they opened
1C, and partner overcalled 1S.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: If partner showes a dead min. with 2S, I will pass, but this
may be partnership depend, if partner is dead min, we will struggle
in 2S and in 2NT, and I prefer, that in this case partner plays his
own garbage.
With kind regards
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