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How to bid this Slam finding 4-4 over 5-4

#1 User is offline   jmc 

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Posted 2008-August-12, 14:58

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RHO opens 2S. The opponents will presumably lead a spade against your final contract. How should the auction go to find 6D? Is it impractical to find a 4-4 slam when you have a 5-4 fit? Would you have avoided clubs for diamonds in real life?

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Posted 2008-August-12, 15:22

Hi,

finding 28HCP slams, with both hands being
(semi-) bal. is not easy, espesially if they
open with a preempt.

Most likely you will end up in 3NT.

(2S) - X (1) - (Pass (2)) - 2NT (3)
(Pass) - 3C (4) - (Pass) - 3S (5)
(Pass) - 3NT (6) - all pass

(1) what else?
(2) I am not going to make it harder with a likely
preemptive raise to 3S
(3) Lebensohl, starting the mission "wrong sidening"
the contract, the alternative is 3S
(4) min / default, this will kill most slam ambitions
(5) asking for a stopper
(6) mission accomplished, this will finally have killed
what is left of slam ambitions, wasted values in
their suit + min.

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Posted 2008-August-12, 15:27

2♠ X P 3♠
P 3NT P P
P

Oops
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-August-12, 15:31

With 28 points in two balanced hands the reality is that almost everyone will miss slam.

If you play some relay system then you might get to slam and then it would be automatic to choose the 4=4 fit.

Edit: But I just noticed the 2♠ opening - so relay is out.
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Posted 2008-August-12, 15:41

The opponents are nv and have 9 spades.

The bidding may start out:
(2s)=x=(3s)=?
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Posted 2008-August-12, 17:33

For whatever reason there was no spade raise at the table by partner of the preemptor.

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Posted 2008-August-12, 17:59

1) Agree with jdonn's sequence.
2) For a slam, the 4-4 fit is better than the 5-4 fit VERY frequently (majority?).
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Posted 2008-August-12, 21:39

Getting to a slam on this hand is just too hard.
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Posted 2008-August-12, 22:02

ROFLOL. Hell, I'd be thrilled to get to a making game with these two hands after the spade interference.
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Posted 2008-August-12, 22:53

Winstonm, on Aug 12 2008, 11:02 PM, said:

ROFLOL. Hell, I'd be thrilled to get to a making game with these two hands after the spade interference.

3NT is on ice...
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Posted 2008-August-12, 23:50

Here is the auction:

2♠ - X - P - 4N (minors)
P - 5N (I can't decide, you decide) - P - 6♦ (maybe we need the pitch and anyway I read in somebody's blog that 6♦ always makes this summer) - Float
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