[han]

I think Bid_em_up nailed it.

[kenrexford]

The second question is curious -- any reason to be so?

Sure.

Wildly overstating one's worth, and being overbearing at it, can gain advantage in some settings. If the associated cost is outweighed by the benefit, then arrogance well played may have a net gain.

[H_KARLUK]

Thanks Ken, but I asked "Any good reason to be so ? " Sorry no offense please, seems you skipped. Anyway, I considered your post as another highly informative.

A few days passed of your bithday but I'm happy you are really great as usual

Btw, I also want to thank Oscar Wilde. Irish Poet, Novelist, Dramatist and Critic, 1854-1900 for quoted "The advantage of the emotions is that they lead us astray.”

Nice.

[JoAnneM]

Blowhard, pointy-haired, short syndrome

[kenrexford]

H_KARLUK, on Dec 2 2008, 09:36 PM, said:

Thanks Ken, but I asked "Any good reason to be so ? " Sorry no offense please, seems you skipped. Anyway, I considered your post as another highly informative.

A few days passed of your bithday but I'm happy you are really great as usual

Btw, I also want to thank Oscar Wilde. Irish Poet, Novelist, Dramatist and Critic, 1854-1900 for quoted "The advantage of the emotions is that they lead us astray.”

Nice.

Well, if simply personal utilitarianism was implied, I did not mean that. To "purify" the comment, assume that the net gain over cost to realized by the downtrodden, or by a charity, or by puppies.

[brianshark]

A healthy dose of arrogance, while it may make a few enemies, will certainly help you succeed in life.

This is not an ideal world, and nice guys do tend to finish last.

[Al_U_Card]

The appreciation of one's own superiority is best expressed silently.

[TimG]

brianshark, on Dec 3 2008, 09:01 AM, said:

A healthy dose of arrogance, while it may make a few enemies, will certainly help you succeed in life.

I think there is a big difference between confidence and arrogance. Where ever arrogance would help you succeed in life, I expect confidence would also get the job done, perhaps even get the job done better.

[Winstonm]

The problem with the arrogant is not that they know what is best for themselves, but they are also certain they know what is best for me.

[H_KARLUK]

Personally, agreed with Al U Card and especially with TimG. I carefully noted whole quotes here not to skip any point. For sure, everybody tried to do best and I appreciate.

Anyhow, I dunno fits or not, I remembered our coach reading a book that i coincidentially looked when i was a studious, earnest swimmer in my younghood. To me such interesting views :
“We tend to live up to our expectations.”
“We can let circumstances rule us, or we can take charge and rule our lives from within.”
Earl Nightingale (US motivational writer and author, 1921-1989)

Sincerely
Hamdi

[sceptic]

H_KARLUK, on Dec 1 2008, 10:20 PM, said:

Are there a single word in English explains "exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner" ?

Any good reason to be so ?

boss ?

[barmar]

If you truly are superior in some way, it's not unreasonable to be proud. E.g. Olympic medalists don't have to be humble.

What's considered a negative trait is being rude or overbearing about it, rubbing it in other people's faces. "Nyah, nyah, I won the Spingold and you didn't!" And if you don't even deserve it, that's pomposity.

[JLOL]

655321, on Dec 1 2008, 05:52 PM, said:

No doubt you have your reasons for asking a question to which you already know the answer.

LOL

[brianshark]

Is there any intrinsic difference between confidence and arrogance? I believe it is one single quality in a person that is interpreted differently by onlookers. People who appreciate that quality in someone call it confidence and people who resent that quality in someone call it arrogance.

I know we'd all like to believe that people who are good at what they do can get the accolades they deserve while being humble to the point of anonymity. But the real world is a rat race and you have to flaunt your success to get the recognition you deserve the majority of the time.

The more you try to be proud of your successes, the more likely you are to find people who resent your arrogance. It's up to everyone to simply find the balance that works for them.

[Winstonm]

Quote

Is there any intrinsic difference between confidence and arrogance?

Confidence is a valid expectation based on experience.
Arrogance is intolerance of competing ideas.

[TimG]

brianshark, on Dec 5 2008, 12:13 PM, said:

Is there any intrinsic difference between confidence and arrogance?

Yes. A world of difference, IMO.

[han]

Winstonm, on Dec 5 2008, 02:44 PM, said:

Quote

Is there any intrinsic difference between confidence and arrogance?

Confidence is a valid expectation based on experience.
Arrogance is intolerance of competing ideas.

Confidence doesn't need to be valid and arrogance doesn't need to be intolerant. For example, I can see how you get to these mistake but they once again show that my understanding of the English language is far superior to yours.

[hrothgar]

H_KARLUK, on Dec 2 2008, 01:20 AM, said:

Are there a single word in English explains "exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner" ?

Any good reason to be so ?

Wandering late into this one...

I will (humbly) suggest that the word "pompous" is a close match

[Winstonm]

han, on Dec 5 2008, 03:13 PM, said:

Winstonm, on Dec 5 2008, 02:44 PM, said:

Quote

Is there any intrinsic difference between confidence and arrogance?

Confidence is a valid expectation based on experience.
Arrogance is intolerance of competing ideas.

Confidence doesn't need to be valid and arrogance doesn't need to be intolerant. For example, I can see how you get to these mistake but they once again show that my understanding of the English language is far superior to yours.

Asshole

[Al_U_Card]

Sarcastic repartee is hardly flatulent...