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2 HCPS and a 4144 is enough to justify a raise? And you better pass this, cause 3 NT will be down, maybe doubled.
Bad luck that you miss 3 NT next time when pd bids the obvious 3 Diamond with Axxx,x,Qxxx,Qxxx.
But hey, in this case the community will say, why didn't you bid 3 NT? Didn't you hear partner bidding 3 ♦ freely?
I think that bidding 3 ♦ with the east hand is taking a good idea much too far.
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Posted 2009-January-23, 03:45
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Posted 2009-January-23, 03:53
Codo, on Jan 23 2009, 04:45 AM, said:
Bad luck that you miss 3 NT next time when pd bids the obvious 3 Diamond with Axxx,x,Qxxx,Qxxx.
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I think that bidding 3 ♦ with the east hand is taking a good idea much too far.
It seems that you haven't heard of the idea of adding points for shortness yet.
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Posted 2009-January-23, 04:04
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Bad luck that you miss 3 NT next time when pd bids the obvious 3 Diamond with Axxx,x,Qxxx,Qxxx.
But hey, in this case the community will say, why didn't you bid 3 NT? Didn't you hear partner bidding 3 ♦ freely?
But hey, in this case the community will say, why didn't you bid 3 NT? Didn't you hear partner bidding 3 ♦ freely?
Wouldn't he bid 2NT (good ♦ raise) with that? The rule of 40 says that bidding 2NT naturally after 3 others have bid is not a good idea. If you really have the 2NT hand and partner could raise to 3, he would balance after 2♥ with a Dbl.
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Posted 2009-January-24, 19:22
If you play 2NT as natural, bidding 3♦ with East hand is a big missdescription.
Non jump raises in competitive situations are constructive, and should have some defensive values.
As East you have 4♦ avaible for a very good description of your hand, surprisingly it will also lead to a good contract. Pass is also very reasonable if partner is the kind of guy who will reopen with 4 hearts.
Non jump raises in competitive situations are constructive, and should have some defensive values.
As East you have 4♦ avaible for a very good description of your hand, surprisingly it will also lead to a good contract. Pass is also very reasonable if partner is the kind of guy who will reopen with 4 hearts.
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Posted 2009-January-25, 04:19
If you bid 3♦ with the East hand and partner bids 3NT, there's no rule that says you have to pass. Why wouldn't you just put him back to 4♦?
However, I agree with Fluffy that this is a 4♦ bid over 2♥. Sometimes it's opener who has the 18-count; if you bid 3♦ it will often continue 4♥-pass-pass and you will have no idea whether to save. 4♦ transfers this decision to partner.
However, I agree with Fluffy that this is a 4♦ bid over 2♥. Sometimes it's opener who has the 18-count; if you bid 3♦ it will often continue 4♥-pass-pass and you will have no idea whether to save. 4♦ transfers this decision to partner.
This post has been edited by gnasher: 2009-January-25, 04:24
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn