[luke warm]

mikeh, on Jul 15 2009, 11:56 AM, said:

To me, being a hero means exposing oneself to unnecessary risk in order to do something primarily, if not exclusively, for the benefit of others..

i pretty much agree with this, except perhaps for the word 'unnecessary'... for example, i believe m.l. king, jr. was a hero, i believe he was on a mission to save the soul of a country, and i believe he knew he was at great risk from evil men... you or i might call the risk unnecessary, but i believe such a distinction never occurred to him

[mikeh]

luke warm, on Jul 15 2009, 04:56 PM, said:

mikeh, on Jul 15 2009, 11:56 AM, said:

To me, being a hero means exposing oneself to unnecessary risk in order to do something primarily, if not exclusively, for the benefit of others..

i pretty much agree with this, except perhaps for the word 'unnecessary'... for example, i believe m.l. king, jr. was a hero, i believe he was on a mission to save the soul of a country, and i believe he knew he was at great risk from evil men... you or i might call the risk unnecessary, but i believe such a distinction never occurred to him

I should perhaps have said 'risk that could have been avoided without incurring any negative consequences'. I don't think anyone would think poorly of someone who, standing beside a raging river in flood, called 911 or tried to throw a rope, etc, to a drowning person, rather than risking his or her own life by jumping in.

By that definition, I agree that M.L. King was a hero, in that he had to have known that he was risking assasination by his acts, and no-one would have critized him had he chosen a different path in life...indeed, the reason we know of him is precisely because he chose a difficult, dangerous path. Had he done otherwise, very few people would have heard of him then and fewer still remember him today.

[Winstonm]

Hero: Clayton Moore
Heroine: Sheri Lewis

Both from my childhood and both now deceased - with no names to take their place.

[Jlall]

Jack Bauer

[mike777]

"... had a hard time of thinking of anyone alive today I would classify as a hero of either gender... "




I started to put together a list, then realized they are all dead.


I do recommend if there is any way any of you can ever attend the annual Medal of Honor dinner do it.

Watching Ted Williams bio on HBO now. People forget he not only played baseball but was in two wars.

He lost 5 years at his prime in a baseball career that is short to begin with.

[mike777]

BTW Paul is on Letterman right now. If you do not know who Paul is ...nevermind/////

[Fluffy]

My heroine is one among many others who have picked to be a politician that supports democracy in tha Basque Country (País Vasco)

As a result she is being tracked by terrorist (found several times her name with her behaviours/conduct/time schedule written on seizured papers). And she cannot even leave home alone, she's got to call bodyguards to go and buy food on the market.

[mike777]

Fluffy, on Jul 16 2009, 01:31 AM, said:

My heroine is one among many others who have picked to be a politician that supports democracy in tha Basque Country (País Vasco)

As a result she is being tracked by terrorist (found several times her name with her behaviours/conduct/time schedule written on seizured papers). And she cannot even leave home alone, she's got to call bodyguards to go and buy food on the market.

I thought everyone in BAsque is a democrat(democracy)? Basque want other?

Hitler or what?

[Fluffy]

There might be a problem in the meaning of democratic, I don't know much of this kind os semantics. Anyway, the point is: if you belong to a party that doesn't support nationalism you will receive menace letters, and become a terrorist's target.

Other targets include members of "Guardia Civil", university teachers, journalists, writters, anyone who is listened.

Rich people get to pay the terrorist or risk being kinapped (didn't happen in several years).

[JoAnneM]

My husband, who if anyone was interested I could definetly talk about; and, for a woman, I think Eleanor Roosevelt is the woman I most admire for being brave enough to confront her own demons and make a huge difference.

[Lobowolf]

Winstonm, on Jul 15 2009, 07:50 PM, said:

Hero: Clayton Moore
Heroine: Sheri Lewis

Both from my childhood and both now deceased - with no names to take their place.

She's not her mom, but I caught Mallory Lewis (and Lamb Chop) at the Magic Castle earlier this year, and I think her mom would have been proud.

[y66]

JoAnneM, on Jul 16 2009, 10:34 AM, said:

My husband, who if anyone was interested I could definetly talk about; and, for a woman, I think Eleanor Roosevelt is the woman I most admire for being brave enough to confront her own demons and make a huge difference.

I'm interested.

[JoAnneM]

y66, on Jul 16 2009, 05:22 PM, said:

JoAnneM, on Jul 16 2009, 10:34 AM, said:

My husband, who if anyone was interested I could definetly talk about; and, for a woman, I think Eleanor Roosevelt is the woman I most admire for being brave enough to confront her own demons and make a huge difference.

I'm interested.

1. A war hero of sorts, Distinguished Flying Cross, Bronze Star, 20 Air Medals, lots more, etc.

2. Passed on lucrative civilian defense job after retirement to become a school teacher.

3, Works with OES and Red Cross during natural emergencies. Especially provides radio communications during California forest fires.

4. Teaches Amateur Radio and trains emergency services volunteers. is one of the 75 Section Managers for the American Radio Relay League.

5. Is the smartest, kindest man I have ever known, of the highest integrity, and doesn't go to church, but studies religions. We have been married 47 years, together 40 years, apart 7 years due to Vietnam and other Air Force duties. He was not a POW or MIA.

[y66]

Wow. He sounds like an amazing guy. I don't know you, but I am very happy for you.