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Down one. 13% of MP's world-wide. What was the worst bid, Pass over 2NT (we were playing 12-14 NT), 3♥ or 5♥?
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Posted 2010-June-06, 10:31
All red, North dealt, bidding went:
Pa-1♣-Pa-1♠
2NT-Pa-3♣-3♥
Pa-5♥-All pass
Down one. 13% of MP's world-wide. What was the worst bid, Pass over 2NT (we were playing 12-14 NT), 3♥ or 5♥?
Pa-1♣-Pa-1♠
2NT-Pa-3♣-3♥
Pa-5♥-All pass
Down one. 13% of MP's world-wide. What was the worst bid, Pass over 2NT (we were playing 12-14 NT), 3♥ or 5♥?
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Posted 2010-June-06, 10:58
Both get blame for agreeing to play weak NT without discussing how to show a strong NT in competition (double of 2NT).
The single worst call is 5♥ though, obviously.
The single worst call is 5♥ though, obviously.
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Posted 2010-June-06, 11:02
This seems easy to me, pass of 2NT (showing minimum hand?) and then making up for the pass by raising to 5♥.
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Posted 2010-June-06, 11:52
5♥ is silly.
Since East somehow forgot to double 2NT, 4♣ would have been a nice try to get the message across.
Since East somehow forgot to double 2NT, 4♣ would have been a nice try to get the message across.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Posted 2010-June-07, 03:43
East is nuts.
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Posted 2010-June-07, 07:23
Hanoi5, on Jun 6 2010, 11:31 AM, said:
All red, North dealt, bidding went:
Pa-1♣-Pa-1♠
2NT-Pa-3♣-3♥
Pa-5♥-All pass
Down one. 13% of MP's world-wide. What was the worst bid, Pass over 2NT (we were playing 12-14 NT), 3♥ or 5♥?
Pa-1♣-Pa-1♠
2NT-Pa-3♣-3♥
Pa-5♥-All pass
Scoring: MP
Down one. 13% of MP's world-wide. What was the worst bid, Pass over 2NT (we were playing 12-14 NT), 3♥ or 5♥?
In spite of the others contention that 5♥ was wacko I have no clue what 3♥ shows in this system for me it would be a GF opposite a minimum hand and so 5♥ looks like a slam try opposite this and would make sense.
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Posted 2010-June-07, 08:09
pooltuna, on Jun 7 2010, 08:23 AM, said:
Hanoi5, on Jun 6 2010, 11:31 AM, said:
All red, North dealt, bidding went:
Pa-1♣-Pa-1♠
2NT-Pa-3♣-3♥
Pa-5♥-All pass
<!-- EASTWEST begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td>Dealer:</td> <td> North </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Vul:</td> <td> Both </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Scoring:</td> <td> MP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> KQ9542 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> J864 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> T </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> Q9 </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> AJT </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> AT52 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> KJ4 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> AT5 </td> </tr> </table> </th> </tr> </table> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table><!-- EASTWEST end -->
Down one. 13% of MP's world-wide. What was the worst bid, Pass over 2NT (we were playing 12-14 NT), 3♥ or 5♥?
Pa-1♣-Pa-1♠
2NT-Pa-3♣-3♥
Pa-5♥-All pass
<!-- EASTWEST begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td>Dealer:</td> <td> North </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Vul:</td> <td> Both </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Scoring:</td> <td> MP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> KQ9542 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> J864 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> T </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> Q9 </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> AJT </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> AT52 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> KJ4 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> AT5 </td> </tr> </table> </th> </tr> </table> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table><!-- EASTWEST end -->
Down one. 13% of MP's world-wide. What was the worst bid, Pass over 2NT (we were playing 12-14 NT), 3♥ or 5♥?
In spite of the others contention that 5♥ was wacko I have no clue what 3♥ shows in this system for me it would be a GF opposite a minimum hand and so 5♥ looks like a slam try opposite this and would make sense.
Yes and no... doesn't W presumably know that E isn't a minimum because he doesn't have clubs and, therefore, must have a strong NT? It sure seems this way to me. So they decided to GF with their nice 6-4, fine. Seems like E didn't appreciate this and so thought W was stronger, bidding 5♥ even though they had ♦KJ not really carrying full weight, etc...
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