[Little Kid]

Scoring: IMP

Pass-(2♠)-X-(3♠)
Pass-(4♠)-X-(Pass)
  ?

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Two questions:

a ) Do you pass over 3♠?
b ) What do you do if you passed and this comes back?

[kfay]

Little Kid, on Jun 8 2010, 02:23 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

Pass-(2♠)-X-(3♠)
Pass-(4♠)-X-(Pass)
  ?

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Two questions:

a ) Do you pass over 3♠?
b ) What do you do if you passed and this comes back?

Yes I would pass.

At this vul I'll just pass with a trick. My ♠A may be totally worthless on offense. Sure I have 6 hearts but 11 tricks are a lot..

[Hanoi5]

I'd pass now but I would have bid 4♥.

[kfay]

Hanoi5, on Jun 8 2010, 02:25 PM, said:

I'd pass now but I would have bid 4♥.

Oops! Yeah right, 4♥ not sure what I was thinking.

[RichMor]

a ) Dunno. Bidding 4♥ is left-hand Jacoby. It will usually transfer them into 4♠. Does 4♥ suggest a 5-level save at equal vulnerability ? Is this the right hand ? Think I will Pass over 3♠

b ) Pass. Like Kevin said.

RichM

[rogerclee]

4H over 3S was extremely obvious.

[jjbrr]

4♥ dawg

[OleBerg]

Little Kid, on Jun 8 2010, 09:23 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

Pass-(2♠)-X-(3♠)
Pass-(4♠)-X-(Pass)
  ?

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Two questions:

a ) Do you pass over 3♠?
b ) What do you do if you passed and this comes back?

This is my third chance to bid hearts. If I don't do it now, I din't think I'll get another chance.

[Fluffy]

I pass, I would had bid 4♥ previous round.

[quiddity]

Lefty's sequence is strange. Does it mean that he has a 7-card spade suit or a heart void? Does it suggest that they might be more likely than usual to save over 5♥?

[neilkaz]

I think not bidding 4♥ the first time is quite bad, but that bidding 5♥ now is even worse.

[the hog]

Fluffy, on Jun 9 2010, 04:23 AM, said:

I pass, I would had bid 4♥ previous round.

Agree with Fluffy. 4H before was pretty obvious. Also bidding 4H before would mean that I would not have this problem now. Over (4S) and a double from pd, pass now is even more obvious.

[gszeszycki]

pass over 3s
partner is under some pressure after 2s and if
there is defense it is most likely behind p making 4h
much more difficult than it might first seem. If p cannot
act over 3s we are unlikely to have missed 4h.

now bid 5h at IMPS*

partner is obviously short in spades and our 6 card heart suit will
cut down severly on any defensive tricks partner might be counting
on if we pass. It takes a lot more for partner to X 4s than it did for
the original 2S x. If partner has the heart length we expect making
11 should be easy since partner is undoubtedly doubling with aces
not queens and jacks. No matter at imps going down 1 in 5h a small
price to pay to make certain we dont lose out a vul game.

*At MP since we rate to beat 4s we will gather in at least some mp
by passing while bidding 5h rates to be a good contract it risks
being bottom if it goes down.

[dake50]

What was 4S deviation? I assume 3S was a bar bid.
Really fear hearts? 7xS with 0-1xH??
I hate it, but I think he's right. 4H makes.
Try for 4 tricks now. Dreaming to think lose 1xH + 1xminor only.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

#1 most likley no, but I dont think Pass is bad
#2 Pass, this one is easy to answer

With kind regards
Marlowe

[ceeb]

Post prandial judgment maybe, but pass & 5♥ seems obvious to me. Pass over 3♠ because despite 10 card ♥ fit this is a 9-loser hand, marginally worth a 2♥ response to a double. The urgency to bid 2nd time around is partner may have extras -- to accommodate the worries about wasted ♠A, imagine --,AKxx,AKxx,xxxxx. Admittedly, LHOs strange bidding does give me pause; hate to let him get away with it.

[Little Kid]

For the people who bid 4♥ right away, how often do you expect partner to be able to make another bid over 3♠ if 4♥ can make? I figured 4♥ would probably make a decent % of the time but that in almost all cases partner would be able to double again as he would have to have extras. By passing now he doesn't propel me into slam if he has a good hand, of course I didn't expect the opponents to be interfering any more lol. Am I looking at this the wrong way?

[flytoox]

5H for me.

[Hanoi5]

Little Kid, on Jun 9 2010, 05:59 AM, said:

For the people who bid 4♥ right away, how often do you expect partner to be able to make another bid over 3♠ if 4♥ can make? I figured 4♥ would probably make a decent % of the time but that in almost all cases partner would be able to double again as he would have to have extras. By passing now he doesn't propel me into slam if he has a good hand, of course I didn't expect the opponents to be interfering any more lol. Am I looking at this the wrong way?

You passed as dealer and hold an ugly 6-card suit. Your Ace is in their suit, which might be good for offense (at least before the 4♠). By bidding 4♥ you give precious information to your partner so that he makes a better judgement. Bidding 5♥ now might be a little awkward as partner might just be doubling 'cause their bidding sucks.

[Fluffy]

Little Kid, on Jun 9 2010, 09:59 AM, said:

For the people who bid 4♥ right away, how often do you expect partner to be able to make another bid over 3♠ if 4♥ can make? I figured 4♥ would probably make a decent % of the time but that in almost all cases partner would be able to double again as he would have to have extras. By passing now he doesn't propel me into slam if he has a good hand, of course I didn't expect the opponents to be interfering any more lol. Am I looking at this the wrong way?

As one of the 4♥ bidders, I expect better cards than most for his double, something like x AKxx Kxx Kxxxx is a minimum and that's a 75% game.

Its hard to imagine hands for partner, knowing that he has singleton spade, that do not make game at least 50% of the time.