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#1 User is offline   flytoox 

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Posted 2010-June-22, 21:00

Red vss White, You are south, holding:

S: Q982
H: QJ3
D: AKJ973
C: --

West, playing precision, opens 1H and is raised to 2H by his pd.

Now do you bid 3D or not?
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Posted 2010-June-22, 21:01

I'd double.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2010-June-22, 21:26

3♦ is fine. I don't feel like ELCing at the 5-level.
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Posted 2010-June-23, 00:32

there ain't gonna be any ELCing because they're playing precision, remember? LHO isn't gonna jump around.

dbl + ELC for me :)
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Posted 2010-June-23, 01:39

If I understand the OP, we are being asked us to choose between 3♦ and pass, rather than 3♦ and double.

Anyway, I bid 3♦ which looks normal to me, but I suppose double could work too. I wouldn't pass.
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Posted 2010-June-23, 02:32

655321, on Jun 23 2010, 07:39 AM, said:

If I understand the OP, we are being asked us to choose between 3♦ and pass, rather than 3♦ and double.

Anyway, I bid 3♦ which looks normal to me, but I suppose double could work too. I wouldn't pass.

You are right. My question is about choosing between 3D and pass.

I did think about the possibility of dbl then bid diamond at some level. But I think this hand is a bid short of doing that.
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Posted 2010-June-23, 02:38

3D seems clear.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-June-23, 08:43

whereagles, on Jun 23 2010, 12:32 AM, said:

there ain't gonna be any ELCing because they're playing precision, remember? LHO isn't gonna jump around.

dbl + ELC for me ;)

Remember? Yes, and because I remember they are playing precision I could predict exactly the brutal scenario: Opener has a very nice heart/club two-suiter and jumps to game after my double. Partner with pretty much the rest of the clubs and short diamonds will guess declarer has a red two-suiter and the roof caves in on us.

Forgetting all that, I think I would like a diamond lead on defense. there must be a way to convey that information :D
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Posted 2010-June-23, 11:39

3♦
OK
bed
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Posted 2010-June-23, 12:38

aqua, agree that is possible. But it is only one of the very many scenarios, of which most end up with LHO passing our bid.

Sure, if LHO weren't limited, a jump to game would be way more likely. But that's not the case.
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