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#1 User is offline   Cascade 

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Posted 2010-June-20, 23:06


Dealer: West
Vul: All
Scoring: IMP
♠ 9
♥ 4
♦ 876532
♣ AKJT3


West North East South

 1♠    Pass  Pass  ?


What now?

Say you bid 2♦ then what next when 2♥ comes back to you?


West North East South

 1♠    Pass  Pass  2♦
 Pass  2♥    Pass  ?


Is 3♣ forcing?

Non-Standard but what if you have 2NT available in fourth seat to show the minors but it is constructive - would you try that?
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Posted 2010-June-20, 23:12

I would pass out 1♠ since I greatly fear the opponents having missed 4♥. In fact it's not unheard of they have missed a slam here and find it.

If I had bid 2♦ then I have never thought about whether 3♣ is forcing next round but it seems obvious to bid in any case.

If I were playing 2NT is minors and constructive then I would not bid it since my hand is not constructive. I don't know why I wouldn't follow my agreements.
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Posted 2010-June-20, 23:23

Pass certainly stands out instead of 2♦. 2♥ by partner is illogical- to he have bid 2♥ now he should have bid it as a simple overcall.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 00:53

cloa513, on Jun 20 2010, 10:23 PM, said:

Pass certainly stands out instead of 2♦. 2♥ by partner is illogical- to he  have bid 2♥ now he should have bid it as a simple overcall.

not true - partner could have hearts & a diamond fit, for example. I bid 3♣ now, though I would have passed out the hand in 1 spade even with 2N as constructive both minors available. I expect that 3♣ is non-forcing.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 00:59

Hi,

2D looks reasonable, and over 2H I bid 3C, which is NF.
If I had 2NT av. to show both minors, I would use it.

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Posted 2010-June-21, 03:31

Of course 3C is NF.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 07:27

Cascade, on Jun 21 2010, 12:06 AM, said:


Dealer: West
Vul: All
Scoring: IMP
♠ 9
♥ 4
♦ 876532
♣ AKJT3


West North East South

 1♠    Pass  Pass  ?


What now?

Say you bid 2♦ then what next when 2♥ comes back to you?


West North East South

 1♠    Pass  Pass  2♦
 Pass  2♥    Pass  ?


Is 3♣ forcing?

Non-Standard but what if you have 2NT available in fourth seat to show the minors but it is constructive - would you try that?

I would report my "pass" button as broken to BBO if I can only make a bid ;)
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Posted 2010-June-21, 09:34

hanp, on Jun 21 2010, 04:31 AM, said:

Of course 3C is NF.

I agree, and I'm not surprised this is your view, since you have stated previously that a subsequent jump shift by an overcaller is NF (which is something I still disagree with).

By the way, I would pass out 1♠.

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Posted 2010-June-21, 11:18

You have to bid 3♣ (which is certainly non-forcing, since both players have made non-forcing bids and there is a cuebid available). Imagine passing out 2♥ and finding partner with something like ♠Axx ♥JTxxx ♦A ♣Qxxx.
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