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What do you bid to win the match

Poll: Your bid (or nobid) with this hand is? (28 member(s) have cast votes)

Your bid (or nobid) with this hand is?

  1. 7C - I have not tricks and partner will have one at most (2 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  2. Pass - 5 Clubs told my story (26 votes [92.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 92.86%

  3. Other - Really? Please explain what other options are available (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 2004-August-16, 06:34

In a very close barometer match, you are down one imp going into the last hand (of course, through no fault of your own)... :-)

You hold...

Scoring: IMP

( P) - P -- (1) - 3
(3N) - 5C - (6) - P
( P) - your bid


1 17+ any distribution forcing one roudn.. (sorry)

Your turn.
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Posted 2004-August-16, 07:31

The opening was from Precision or similar?
I think I will pass.
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Posted 2004-August-16, 08:13

Its a clear pass to me.

1. Pard likes to make agressive (read: silly) bids over strong openers.
2. We have goaded them into a guess via 6. I don't sac when I've made them guess at a high level.
3. They may guess to bid 7, and ....make it.
4. They may go down in 6 (unlikely I know)
5. 7 is probably going for 1400 anyway. Give pard his typical: xxx, xx, xx, AQxxxx (Please don't say you wouldn't bid 3 here), and we are -2000. Oh, and we have an outside chance to beat 6.
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Posted 2004-August-16, 08:51

What is 1? What is 3? :) More info needed...
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Posted 2004-August-16, 09:08

I'm not close to bidding 7. I've already bid more than I would have at the table. It's worked out with the opponents making a guess. Why try to undo what I've done?

I won't vote because 5 did not tell my story, it told the story of a different hand.

If you're going to bid 5, isn't there some obligation to try to mess with the opponents on the way to 5. 4 maybe?
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Posted 2004-August-16, 09:18

Yeah, I pass as well. We've done a good job already.. They're completely in the dark.

Let me add the following. Bidding 7C might induce opener to make a forcing pass to show a void, something I definitely don't want opps to do, since East might deem his Qxx as "little wastage" and bid a 7H on a finesse that works!
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Posted 2004-August-16, 14:03

5 told my story. They "gambled" 6, and if I bid 7 they might bid 7 which could make.
I don't like to try to tell my hand more then once, it didn't get any better with the bidding.

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Posted 2004-August-16, 15:06

My team mates know we are down one, too. If they play 2/1, isn't there a good chance that they got no intervention over their strong 2 opening? Or maybe West could open a suit at the one-level and thus show his big two suiter below the 7-level?

In both cases, they may bid the grand on a finesse.
Or maybe they will avoid the safety play in hearts, taking the finesse to tie the match with an overtrick.

Passing seems so clear that I am sure 7 would have won the match ;)
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Posted 2004-August-16, 18:59

Pass. If my p had more, then he would've bid 4 or 5, so we are going down too much in 7 imo...
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Posted 2004-August-17, 02:11

14 answers, is it time to know the full hand? :)
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Posted 2004-August-17, 08:19

It doesn't matter what the full hand is.
This is a theorethical question, probably based on a real hand since Ben posted it.
But maybe it might have been right on this hand to bid 7, since he did post it ;)
On the next 15 hands it would be wrong, and bridge is a numbers game, nothing is a 100% all the time, very far from that.

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Posted 2004-August-17, 09:13

Trpltrbl, on Aug 17 2004, 09:19 AM, said:

It doesn't matter what the full hand is.
This is a theorethical question, probably based on a real hand since Ben posted it.
But maybe it might have been right on this hand to bid 7, since he did post it ;)
On the next 15 hands it would be wrong, and bridge is a numbers game, nothing is a 100% all the time, very far from that.

Mike :D

I don't ask for the right answer, I'm just curious why he posted this hand, what they bid and what the result of the match was.
I would like to know the story behind the theorethical question, bridge is also (fortunately :D ) a people game.
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Posted 2004-August-19, 21:05

pclayton, on Aug 16 2004, 09:13 AM, said:

1. Pard likes to make agressive (read: silly) bids over strong openers.

One would think he had played with me! :) I pass too.
I tend to lead fourth best - as opposed to the best suit, the second best suit, or the third best suit for our side
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Posted 2004-August-21, 05:59

my guess is ben posted this hand because -1400 ties vs 1430 & wins vs 1460.
i suspect his aesthetics are satisfied with that stuff, anyways mine are ;-)
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Posted 2004-August-22, 09:08

Pass. Playing with Ben 5 was already too high...
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