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Valuation exercise Not a hand that occurred at the table

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Posted 2010-November-17, 07:57

This was a problem hand given at the club last night. It probably arose out of bidding practice or a sim or something; the problem-giver is creating a home-grown system, and didn't bother us with the details. Assume MPs, no auction provided. You hold:



Here are the parameters given by the person who posted the problem -

Partner is specifically 4-4-4-1. RHO has "shown strong clubs". You're being forced to choose between 3S and 4S. What do you pick if partner shows:

1) 11-15 HCP
2) 11-14 HCP
3) 12-14 HCP

None of these totals would count a stiff Q or J of clubs towards the total HCP, but could include a stiff A. How many spades are you bidding with each range?
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Posted 2010-November-17, 09:18

2 for all 3 ranges
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Posted 2010-November-17, 09:23

Stay low, the K is worthless. Even with the Ace onside, there's no real loser you can discard on it.
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Posted 2010-November-17, 12:38

Yuck, 2, or 3 - Whichever is the lowest legal denomination. Possibly 1.
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Posted 2010-November-17, 19:56

Have people tried to construct partner's hand? Let's assume that partner has zero club values (OP said Q/J are discounted and given RHO's clubs, partner will very unlikely to have CA), let's see.
Kxxx KQxx Kxxx x - This is ok, needing to pick up the spades.
QJxx KJxx Axxx x - This one is not good.
KJxx Axxx Kxxx x - This one is OK.
KQxx K9xx Axxx x - This one needs one or two finesses.
Jxxx AKxx Kxxx x - This one is decent.
KQxx AKxx 10xxx x - This one needs a bit of luck or a misdefence.
Note that all of these hands are in the very minimum in terms of point count.
Assuming we are forced to choose between 3 or 4, at imps this is a clear 4S for all 3 cases but at MPs I will go for the game bonus too because they might lead wrong or misdefend.
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