[mtvesuvius]

IMPs - W/W

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Say you bid 3♥... Partner will now bid 6♦(!). What now?

[mfa1010]

In my world something weird is happening. 3♦ was not forcing and now partner leaps to slam, even though 3♥ doesn't promise anything except a heart suit?! I'm not going to make a blind raise to 7♦.

[cherdano]

mfa1010, on 2011-January-07, 17:15, said:

In my world something weird is happening. 3♦ was not forcing and now partner leaps to slam, even though 3♥ doesn't promise anything except a heart suit?! I'm not going to make a blind raise to 7♦.

I do think 3H promises a little something but the auction is still widely inconsistent. Anyway, since I don't really have cards for partner (even if he thinks my heart suit upgraded his hand) I think I would pass even if I did understand what partner is doing.

[mike777]

prefer 4d not 3h...now I pass.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

4♠! splinter for ♦

[mr1303]

What actually is 3D?

a) A good hand with diamonds, supposedly too strong to overcall 3D

Showing diamonds and hearts, 2 suited?

c) Showing clubs (paradox response?)

[mike777]

2nt forces 3c often very very weak, responder may correct, still very weak.

3d shows alot of extras and natural.

[gwnn]

wise poster earlier today said:

I love when I have automatic passes while at the same time having a reasonable dummy for pard

[gnasher]

mr1303, on 2011-January-07, 19:08, said:

What actually is 3D?

a) A good hand with diamonds, supposedly too strong to overcall 3D

Showing diamonds and hearts, 2 suited?

c) Showing clubs (paradox response?)

Definitely not c), because it's not that useful and quite hard to play.

We already have lots of ways of bidding a one-suiter - 3♠, 3NT, double then 4♦ - so it's not a) either.

That leaves b ). Opinions vary about how strong it should be. I think it shows some extras, but not the Earth.

[nige1]

mtvesuvius, on 2011-January-07, 15:28, said:

IMPs - W/W
Say you bid 3♥... Partner will now bid 6♦(!). What now?

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mr1303, on 2011-January-07, 19:08, said:

What actually is 3D?
a) A good hand with diamonds, supposedly too strong to overcall 3D
Showing diamonds and hearts, 2 suited?
c) Showing clubs (paradox response?)

gnasher, on 2011-January-07, 20:08, said:

Definitely not c), because it's not that useful and quite hard to play.
We already have lots of ways of bidding a one-suiter - 3♠, 3NT, double then 4♦ - so it's not a) either.
That leaves b ). Opinions vary about how strong it should be. I think it shows some extras, but not the Earth.

IMO after
(2♠) X (_P) 2N
(_P) ??

• 3♣ = Normal puppet.
• 3♦/♥ = Natural forcing. After partner's 6♦ rebid, I wimp out with a pass.
• 3♠ = UCB, usually a ♣ suit but may simply be looking for a ♠ stop.
• 3N = Natural.

[Fluffy]

3♥ also, about raising it really depends on who partner is, if it was my father I would pass and don't even think about it, but with a sound partner I am raising.

The hand fits a tad better than partner expects, I believe he has heart shortness given that he made no effort to play in hearts but his diamonds aren't self sufficent looking at our hand. Spades are somewhere, and it looks like in partner's hands

[whereagles]

3♦ should be like 15-18 or thereabouts. I'm raising to 4♦. Toyed with the idea of a 4♠ splinter, but I think that's a bit too much. Perhaps with the club ace instead.

After 6♦ I'm totally lost. What kind of hand could bid 3♦ only and then shoot at 6 opposite what could be a lebensolic zero-count? Perhaps pard thought 3♦ was forcing? Or 3♥ was a diamond raise?? I'm not going to make wild guesses. Pass.

[cherdano]

gnasher, on 2011-January-07, 20:08, said:

mr1303, on 2011-January-07, 19:08, said:

What actually is 3D?

a) A good hand with diamonds, supposedly too strong to overcall 3D

Showing diamonds and hearts, 2 suited?

c) Showing clubs (paradox response?)

Definitely not c), because it's not that useful and quite hard to play.

We already have lots of ways of bidding a one-suiter - 3♠, 3NT, double then 4♦ - so it's not a) either.

That leaves b ). Opinions vary about how strong it should be. I think it shows some extras, but not the Earth.

I am surprised you think it is so specific. With 1363 and 19 hcp, it wouldn't occur to me to bid anything but X-then-3D. Same with a stopperless 2254. I agree it shows a flexible hand not just about diamonds, but I don't think it shows hearts.

[tolvyrj]

Did i really bid 3H over my prds 3D, oppsy daisy, well now he tells me with 6D that he wants to play D. oh what i do, since idont know what the heck is going on i think ill pass, and prepare to explain my prd, why i dont support his suits. What is prds second suit? My guess is spades and then 3 card club suit. Why? well opener has spades, 6 of them, i have 1 so there r 6 spade cards hanging around somewhere, and im pretty sure west has only 2 of them.

[han]

3H is from another world, I play that 3D shows diamonds.

[Fluffy]

han, on 2011-January-11, 12:36, said:

3H is from another world, I play that 3D shows diamonds.

And do you also happen to play that 3♦ denies heart support?, your world is a bit weird