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#1 User is offline   chasetb 

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Posted 2011-April-13, 10:43


Contract is 7S. That dastardly devil West leads trump.

What hand do you win the trump lead in, and how do you go about bringing this Grand Slam home?
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Posted 2011-April-13, 12:03

I see two lines:

A: Win the trump in hand, play the T to the Ace, cash the AK pitching a spade and play the Q from the board. If the King obliges, draw trump and claim. If the King does not drop, ruff a diamond, ruff a spade and hope trump are 2-2. In a vacuum, I make this line about 41% ((.68 x .40) + (.28 x 50)). In reality, its better than this since LHO is much more likely to have 2-3 trump instead of a singleton. If we were to say he will 'never' lead a trump singleton, and since trump are not 4-0, I think the odds of a 2-2 now become more like 60% and a 3-1 closer to 40, which make the success of this line 48%.

B: Start on a crossruff - win in hand, A, ruff , AK (discarding spade), ruff , ruff , ruff heart and trump. I'll make on a spade finesse, or if I can guess a + squeeze, so I'm getting 50% from the get-go + some points for the K dropping. Calculating the squeeze odds seems dependent on what I find out in the red suits, but it seems LHO would have to have a lot of hearts for the squeeze to be right. Depending on the auction, an evil LHO might lead a spade looking at the K. Obviously thats great for me here, but surely it is a consideration for the success of the spade finesse.

"B" looks superior to me.
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Posted 2011-April-13, 12:58

Why in your line A would you play ace then queen of spades lol?
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Posted 2011-April-13, 13:00

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-April-13, 12:58, said:

Why in your line A would you play ace then queen of spades lol?


Why does it hurt?
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Posted 2011-April-13, 13:01

Because sometimes RHO has 4 of them?
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Posted 2011-April-13, 13:01

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-April-13, 13:01, said:

Because sometimes RHO has 4 of them?


(headslap)
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Posted 2011-April-13, 16:26

It would be fun to win the trump in hand, play the T to the A, then a low spade off dummy.

Please note I said "fun" and not "smart".
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Posted 2011-April-13, 17:13

View PostPhil, on 2011-April-13, 13:01, said:

(headslap)


By the way, as he indirectly points out, I can make with RHO having 4-2 in the blacks. This gives "A" a lot more credit (and might well be superior)
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Posted 2011-April-13, 18:04

This hand gets weird late in the play. I mean, one alternative line is to simply ruff one diamond and then finesse spades. That hook is allowed to work. But, at about the 8-card ending, things get Geza Ottlik weird and geavily conditional.
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