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Holding J9x 98xx x A98xx. Both red. Partner opens 1st seat with 2♦ which includes weak 2 in either M or strong bal 20-21. RHO passes and what is your choice?
Is 3♠ the correct bid as this obeys LOTT? And it does have the maximum preemptive power.
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Posted 2011-August-30, 23:30
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Posted 2011-August-31, 00:07
twcho, on 2011-August-30, 23:30, said:
Holding J9x 98xx x A98xx. Both red. Partner opens 1st seat with 2♦ which includes weak 2 in either M or strong bal 20-21. RHO passes and what is your choice?
Is 3♠ the correct bid as this obeys LOTT? And it does have the maximum preemptive power.
Is 3♠ the correct bid as this obeys LOTT? And it does have the maximum preemptive power.
Yes, i think you have the right idea. 3 ♠ is my bid. If pd opened strong 2 nt and has 4 or more ♥ he can easily bid it. You are not planning to play slam anyway. If he has weak 2♠ opener, u have the right hand for this preempt. If he has weak ♥ suit he can bid 4♥, Axxxx side suit +4 trumps +stiff. Not only preemptive but it is very hard on our LHO too. Is his DBL showing ♠ or take out ? They better made their homework
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Posted 2011-August-31, 01:15
Sure, 3♠ is a good bid. If partner opened in 3rd seat I might bid only 2♠, but that is not so clear.
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Posted 2011-August-31, 01:24
Are you all nuts? I think it's a clear 2♠. Either partner has a weak two and we don't want to play 3♠ (imo), or partner has a strong balanced hand in which case we want to investigate our ♥ fit.
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Posted 2011-August-31, 01:36
I would be quite happy to play 3♠ , if pd had a weak2 in that suit , so would bid 3♠ if our Multi included only a weak major option.
Since this time the Multi also includes a strong NT , I would bid 3♠ only if I had the agreement that it shows 4♥s , so that if he does have that hand , finding our 4-4 ♥ fit is easy.
Since this time the Multi also includes a strong NT , I would bid 3♠ only if I had the agreement that it shows 4♥s , so that if he does have that hand , finding our 4-4 ♥ fit is easy.
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Posted 2011-August-31, 02:20
Of course it shows 4+ ♥. There is virtually no hand that will bid 3♠ with less than 4 card ♥ suit.
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Posted 2011-August-31, 04:26
Free, on 2011-August-31, 01:24, said:
Are you all nuts? I think it's a clear 2♠. Either partner has a weak two and we don't want to play 3♠ (imo), or partner has a strong balanced hand in which case we want to investigate our ♥ fit.
Partner has KQxxxx, x, xxx, Kxx you were making 3♠ but they overcalled 3♦ over 2♠ making 4.
3♠ is the right bid if you play pretty classical weak 2s, 2♠ if might be a 5 card suit.
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Posted 2011-August-31, 10:12
Free, on 2011-August-31, 01:24, said:
Are you all nuts?
Brainwashed by Larry Cohen obviously.
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Posted 2011-August-31, 10:44
I am nuts, too. With a stiff and no quacks in the minors this is not the time to bid less than the LOTT dictates. Wouldn't surprise me if 4♠ is our par.
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