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Posted 2004-October-04, 03:37

Imps, not that it matters.

The opps are playing a 14-16NT

You hold
x
Txxx
xxxx
AQxx

The bidding
(1N) P (2C) P
(2S) P (4S) all pass

Pd leads the T of S and the following dummy appears

Axxxx
QJxxx
x
Kx

Declarer wins the K of S, plays a S to the A, (partner follows with the 7) ,
and takes a losing H finesse. Partner switches to the CT. You win the Q of C
and....?
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2004-October-04, 03:49

I would take a simple line. Cashing club ace, look at the card pd play. If he discard a high card unnecessary, then I will return h, hoping pd can ruff. Pd should not have D ace if he is a good player, otherwise he should case it before play C Ten.
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Posted 2004-October-04, 04:22

I would play the same way, but look... it is a problem hehe.

Declarer has 3-5 HCP in , partner has a trump left, that means the setting trick might come from either red suit.

It would be very rare that declarer played this risky way with Axx, so playing A+ looks right.

If we had 9 we could try a safe lead at this moment.
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Posted 2004-October-04, 05:06

I looked only a few secs into this problem, so I prolly have got wrong, but why not a heart anyway? If pard can't ruff, hearts are 5422 and declarer won't get any useful discard on the 5th heart.

The problem with a club is setting up a few club tricks for declarer, which might prove useful to disc hearts.
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Posted 2004-October-04, 05:24

whereagles, on Oct 4 2004, 11:06 AM, said:

I looked only a few secs into this problem, so I prolly have got wrong, but why not a heart anyway? If pard can't ruff, hearts are 5422 and declarer won't get any useful discard on the 5th heart.

The problem with a club is setting up a few club tricks for declarer, which might prove useful to disc hearts.

I think he will play dummy, and doesnt need club trick. His h is good now. This question is actually a bit strange if declarer plays correctly. Pd shoul not have small trumps otherwise declarer should clear it before finessing H. Declarer looks like to have 5233 or 5332.
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Posted 2004-October-04, 05:39

Hum.. 5-card spade? That's a good point, and indeed the hints are towards it. In that case a cash out is necessary. Club ace and diam to pard's ace.
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Posted 2004-October-04, 07:19

same as fluffy, ace of club and a dimond
foole me once, shame one you!!
foole me twice, shame on me....!!
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Posted 2004-October-04, 07:45

Silly me...

I cash the club ACE and take a look at my partners club. If he wants a heart ruff, he will play an aweful big one here. I suspect that declarer has a doubleton heart if he really left a trump out. But I can count his tricks now... 5S, 1C, 2H (Ace and JACK in dummy), and two heart ruffs, or one heart ruff and the long heart (same difference after ruffing one). So if he has the diamond ace he will make (baring a heart ruff by partner).

So the defense seems clear to me.. let partner direct me. I am no hero... Partner will look into his hand, see rather he has diamond ACE or more importantly, another spade and no more hearts, and he will tell me what to do IF WE CAN BEAT IT, when I cash my club ACE. Did declarer misplay? Don't care... I will do the best I can do...
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Posted 2004-October-05, 04:36

Frankly, if declarer is competent, the hand makes little sense. Assume declarer holds KQJxx Ax KQx Jxx. Wouldn't he try a diamond towards hand in place of an immediate heart finesse? It would seem right even with KJx. If, instead, he has Axx and Axx, he should play A and low towards table. On the other hand, if partner has A, I would have expected him to cash it here. So what are we missing?
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