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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2011-December-30, 07:47

Q9xx
Kxx
108xx
Kx


All vulnerable RHO deals and opens

(1)-pass-(2)-3
(3)-??
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Posted 2011-December-30, 07:48

Defensive hand and pard might have a below average hand. I say let it be.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 08:56

Partner knows prebalancing. I don't want to discourage her from doing so in the future.

PASS.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 12:47

How about 3 which is hopefully fit-showing with only 4 spades. Sometimes we get to play at the 3 level then, and from the right side!

3NT could be right too. (xxx, x, AKxxxx, Axx)

I think I need coffee before I look at this hand again.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 13:55

depends on agreements, I have partners I'd bid 4D with and partner's id pass immediately with.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 14:33

easy pass.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 15:09

I would bid 4D. FWIW I really don't think it's easy to double someone on this auction, most people are glad to have pushed you to 4m, so -100 into their 140 is a very likely occurrence.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 16:04

Well, if u r sure 4 wont be dbled, then it is easy. On the other hand if opps r awake they realise that -100 is very close to zero if they have 140 coming to they side, so dbling our 4 wont cost much even if it makes.
-200 on the other hand is a kiss of death in MP`s so raising u prds 3 to 4 aint so clear cut.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 17:04

Pass. We may well beat 3 with 4 going down. Also, on some of the hands where we belong in 4 partner will act again.
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Posted 2011-December-30, 23:34

Pass would not even occur to me tbh. Pd's overcall is much more promising than 1-2 overcall.

EDIT : If i knew we will be doubled in 4, i would be even happier to bid 4. But i really play this as support and not broke. Otherwise my concern would be to be lifted to 5 frequently, rather than being doubled in 4.
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Posted 2011-December-31, 00:23

This is very close to a 3NT bid. Give me the A of S instead of the Q and 3NT it is.
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Posted 2012-January-03, 04:49

4 -1 undoubled was a top, but even -170 was a good one. I think I would had doubled 4 coming back, that would be the bottom.
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Posted 2012-January-04, 01:41

View PostFluffy, on 2012-January-03, 04:49, said:

4 -1 undoubled was a top, but even -170 was a good one. I think I would had doubled 4 coming back, that would be the bottom.


What was the whole deal ?
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Posted 2012-January-04, 03:29

View Postrogerclee, on 2011-December-30, 15:09, said:

I would bid 4D. FWIW I really don't think it's easy to double someone on this auction, most people are glad to have pushed you to 4m, so -100 into their 140 is a very likely occurrence.


One reason why they'll find it hard to double is that RHO will rarely have a good enough hand to double 4 when all he could was just compete to 3. But if LHO has a maximum for his 2 and most likely only 3s for his raise, he's likely to double, don't you think ?
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Posted 2012-January-04, 03:59

View PostMrAce, on 2012-January-04, 01:41, said:

What was the whole deal ?


I only remember LHO had Q stff and RHO Ax

After the hand RHO comented something about 3 being intended as invitational.
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