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Dummy of your dreams, partner!

Poll: Dummy of your dreams, partner! (31 member(s) have cast votes)

What's your call?

  1. pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 3NT (15 votes [48.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 48.39%

  3. 4H (5 votes [16.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.13%

  4. 4S (11 votes [35.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.48%

  5. 6D (just for old time's sake) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. other (0 votes [0.00%])

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#41 User is offline   wyman 

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Posted 2012-March-20, 08:10

View Postphil_20686, on 2012-March-20, 07:53, said:

This is much to high a margin for the 3 spades rebid. A suit like AQ98xx is more than sufficient for a 3S call here. If partner has a doubleton where else would you want to play? And yet without the ability to take a finesse you could be conceding four spade tricks opposit a void, and losing control to boot.


Interesting, with a normal 17 count (and some good 16s) and AQ98xx, I'd be inclined to rebid 2N. And with 15-bad 16, I'd settle for a simple 2S rebid. Perhaps this style is far less standard than I think.
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Posted 2012-March-20, 13:45

This is a 3 NT call for me.

I am not really thrilled about playing in 6-0 fit. And i dont even have a legit reason/concern that would make me wanna play 6-0 fit. Pd is not dead yet, as others mentioned, he can always lift it.
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Posted 2012-March-21, 12:20

The full deal:



I assume those who bid 3NT also believe that North has an obvious pull. I wanted to bid 4H but I didn't know how GIB would treat it (yes I know I can hover over the bid and see the explanation but I try to avoid that), so I bid 4S; my experience has been that GIB almost always has a very good suit to jump rebid. 6H by North looks pretty great, anyone for a heart bid rather than 3S?
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Posted 2012-March-21, 14:13

View Postdaveharty, on 2012-March-21, 12:20, said:

The full deal:



I assume those who bid 3NT also believe that North has an obvious pull. I wanted to bid 4H but I didn't know how GIB would treat it (yes I know I can hover over the bid and see the explanation but I try to avoid that), so I bid 4S; my experience has been that GIB almost always has a very good suit to jump rebid. 6H by North looks pretty great, anyone for a heart bid rather than 3S?


Over 3nt, I would pull with north's hand to 4♥, which I think is a perfect description of the hand.

After that, south pushing to slam seems very reasonable. I imagine something like 5♣ by south 5♦ by north 6♥ by south.

If east finds the stiff k♦ lead, it does go down however.
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Posted 2012-March-21, 14:18

View Postdaveharty, on 2012-March-21, 12:20, said:

anyone for a heart bid rather than 3S?


Of course, as we debated in another topic i am not really into this forum logic where people skips their ♥ suit due t osuit quality and all. As north now i would bid 4♥ if i decide to pull this 3 NT.
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Posted 2012-March-21, 15:00

View Postdaveharty, on 2012-March-21, 12:20, said:

The full deal:



I assume those who bid 3NT also believe that North has an obvious pull. I wanted to bid 4H but I didn't know how GIB would treat it (yes I know I can hover over the bid and see the explanation but I try to avoid that), so I bid 4S; my experience has been that GIB almost always has a very good suit to jump rebid. 6H by North looks pretty great, anyone for a heart bid rather than 3S?


this seems like a routine hand to plan a 1s-1n-2h-2s-3s sequence on
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Posted 2012-March-23, 12:38

My vote was 4♥, which as I stated originally I thought should be natural, for the exact reason that this hand probably belongs in a major (not NT) and it's either hearts or spades. Both games make and the heart slam is fair. it makes on anything but a diamond lead, and even then, it still has misdefence chances.
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Posted 2012-March-23, 12:41

View PostHighLow21, on 2012-March-23, 12:38, said:

My vote was 4♥, which as I stated originally I thought should be natural, for the exact reason that this hand probably belongs in a major (not NT) and it's either hearts or spades. Both games make and the heart slam is fair. it makes on anything but a diamond lead, and even then, it still has misdefence chances.

In fact, a good defender as West would probably cough up 6♥ by South on the theory that an aggressive opening lead is called for and clubs is the best aggressive lead. Club ruff, spade ruff, hearts from the top, planning to rise A♦ if one is returned once A♥ is taken; draw trumps, run spades, making 6 easily.
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Posted 2012-March-23, 12:45

View Postdaveharty, on 2012-March-21, 12:20, said:

The full deal:





This hand has raised another interesting point now: What would you do with the south cards if partner rebid 2d over 1N?
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Posted 2012-March-23, 13:08

View Postphil_20686, on 2012-March-23, 12:45, said:

This hand has raised another interesting point now: What would you do with the south cards if partner rebid 2d over 1N?

Good one.

I would do the chicken dance, but I'm not sure how that would help the auction. I would guess 4♦ if that is invitational or 3♦ if that were stronger than 4♦. Or I might take a view and bid 5♦. After all, I have strong support and controls in each side suit.
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