In the given auction only South (JEC) can have 2056 shape, but if that was the case he has a textbook lightner double. However it is more likely for JEC to hold 4117 shape, then Andy would make while other table who played teh suggested safer line would go down, because then south would be able to discard his stiff ♥ when ♦ was ruffed with J in dummy. None of this happened, a good play became a push board without a reward.
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BBF vs JEC #6 Board 18
#1
Posted 2012-April-16, 01:13
Here is the hand where Andy (Gnasher) played 6♠ (you can see how he played by clicking next in diagram) and was critisized by a very good player that his line would fail if someone had a ♥ void with 2 trumps. Was suggested that he should have come to hand with 2nd ♠ instead of cashing ♥ A to be more safe. I disagreed.
In the given auction only South (JEC) can have 2056 shape, but if that was the case he has a textbook lightner double. However it is more likely for JEC to hold 4117 shape, then Andy would make while other table who played teh suggested safer line would go down, because then south would be able to discard his stiff ♥ when ♦ was ruffed with J in dummy. None of this happened, a good play became a push board without a reward.
In the given auction only South (JEC) can have 2056 shape, but if that was the case he has a textbook lightner double. However it is more likely for JEC to hold 4117 shape, then Andy would make while other table who played teh suggested safer line would go down, because then south would be able to discard his stiff ♥ when ♦ was ruffed with J in dummy. None of this happened, a good play became a push board without a reward.
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#2
Posted 2012-April-16, 02:03
Coming to hand first in spades risks somebody having a singleton heart and a singleton diamond. Is that more or less likely than somebody having a heart void and exactly 2 spades? I thought Andy found a nice and probably best line, and these extremely marginal decisions are not what Cayne matches are lost on.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
- hrothgar
- hrothgar
#3
Posted 2012-April-16, 03:05
I just assumed that that if someone had a heart void they'd have got it right already.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
#4
Posted 2012-April-16, 03:14
han, on 2012-April-16, 02:03, said:
Coming to hand first in spades risks somebody having a singleton heart and a singleton diamond. Is that more or less likely than somebody having a heart void and exactly 2 spades? I thought Andy found a nice and probably best line, and these extremely marginal decisions are not what Cayne matches are lost on.
No, it is less likely and imo impossible someone (that can be only south in this auction) holding a void ♥ + 2 cards ♠
MrAce, on 2012-April-16, 01:13, said:
In the given auction only South (JEC) can have 2056 shape, but if that was the case he has a textbook lightner double. However it is more likely for JEC to hold 4117 shape, then Andy would make while other table who played teh suggested safer line would go down, because then south would be able to discard his stiff ♥ when ♦ was ruffed with J in dummy. None of this happened, a good play became a push board without a reward.
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#5
Posted 2012-April-16, 03:16
Good point, I glanced over it.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
- hrothgar
- hrothgar
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