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#1 User is offline   _fonzie__ 

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Posted 2013-April-16, 04:01

I'm looking for the most common way to treat bidding sequences such as (1) dbl (1)
what does double mean (exactly)? and what are the available forcing bids?
I'm saying exactly because I think most use it as anti-psyche-ish, but can this be 3 cards, any number of cards, or specifically 4 cards?
In combination with that, what does 2 mean? Does it show a 5th heart or is it a cuebid, in which case what should be the difference with 2?
Does it make a difference if 4th hand initially passed?
I've had the following bidding sequence with an expert:
my hand: KT98 T87 A4 KJT7
non vul vs vul, partner passes, rho 1, me DBL, lho 1, partner 2, righty passes.
What should I have expected?

Side question: do you agree with dbl?
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Posted 2013-April-16, 04:15

I think there are geographical variations in how these bids are played. In England, it's normal to play that that:

- Double shows four of the suit, or five in a hand too weak for the two-level. I suppose it could also be a very good hand with five hearts, which plans to make another move.
- 2 shows five, with the values for the two-level.
- Higher heart bids are what they would have been if responder had passed.
- 2 is a cue-bid, and might or might not have four hearts (eg it could be 4-4 in the majors).
- Being a passed-hand makes no difference.

With your example hand, I agree with the double and I would pass 2.

This post has been edited by gnasher: 2013-April-16, 04:18

... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-April-16, 04:51

Hi fonzie, wellcome to the Forum. I agree with your double, your pass and would play the same style as Andy.
Kind Regards

Roland


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Posted 2013-April-17, 09:08

View Post_fonzie__, on 2013-April-16, 04:01, said:

I'm looking for the most common way to treat bidding sequences such as (1) dbl (1)
what does double mean (exactly)? and what are the available forcing bids?
I'm saying exactly because I think most use it as anti-psyche-ish, but can this be 3 cards, any number of cards, or specifically 4 cards?
In combination with that, what does 2 mean? Does it show a 5th heart or is it a cuebid, in which case what should be the difference with 2?
Does it make a difference if 4th hand initially passed?
I've had the following bidding sequence with an expert:
my hand: KT98 T87 A4 KJT7
non vul vs vul, partner passes, rho 1, me DBL, lho 1, partner 2, righty passes.
What should I have expected?

Side question: do you agree with dbl?


2 is natural (5crd suit). 2 is the cuebid. Your double is just fine (strength & shape is ok).

Steven
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