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#1 User is offline   lesh 

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Posted 2013-May-19, 10:48



IMPS
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Posted 2013-May-19, 11:29

what's the score?

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Posted 2013-May-19, 11:45

IMO if partner cannot make a takeout double of 4S then I am seriously magic-handing to bid now, meaning I have to require my partner to hold specific red-suit cards to cover enough of my losers to make bidding profitable. By bidding, I could easily turn a plus into a minus. Bidding can only be right if: A) I can go down less than the value of their game, provided 4S makes or B) I have a vulnerable game or slam that I would have found had I not been deprived of bidding room.

I see no strong case for either potential, so I believe this is a clear-cut pass.
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Posted 2013-May-19, 13:47

I'd pass. Double is likely to get an unwelcome 5 from partner.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-May-19, 14:43

4NT. If in doubt, bid.
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Posted 2013-May-19, 17:22

Double for a club lead.
Hope partner's CA +C-ruff +SA +partner's winner was necessary to set.
Or partner has no CA but his SP C-lead lets me win SA +to partner +C-ruff +H-winner.
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Posted 2013-May-19, 18:48

View Postdiana_eva, on 2013-May-19, 11:29, said:

what's the score?

You are hereby promoted to expert:)))))))))))))))))))
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Posted 2013-May-19, 20:43

View Postgszes, on 2013-May-19, 18:48, said:

You are hereby promoted to expert:)))))))))))))))))))

..... and another missed opportunity for me
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Posted 2013-May-19, 21:52

Worth a double, hoping P has some ! & trix. If not, convert 5 to 5, which P may change to 5. This should show long/good red suits - which all behind the bidder's P.
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Posted 2013-May-19, 21:57

View Postdake50, on 2013-May-19, 17:22, said:

Double for a club lead.
Hope partner's CA +C-ruff +SA +partner's winner was necessary to set.
Or partner has no CA but his SP C-lead lets me win SA +to partner +C-ruff +H-winner.


Really? I would not be surprised to hear partner bid 5C, not pass. I pass.
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Posted 2013-May-20, 00:14

View Postwanoff, on 2013-May-19, 14:43, said:

4NT. If in doubt, bid.

I agree with the statement, but I don't really have any serious doubts about this one, easy pass.
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Posted 2013-May-20, 02:28

View Postdiana_eva, on 2013-May-19, 11:29, said:

what's the score?


From your perspective it is somewhere around a draw or very little for you or them :)
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Posted 2013-May-20, 11:54

My counter-part will almost assuredly face the same problem I have.
We have enough potential to make game or even slam when p was
unable to bid at unfavorable over 4s. The down side is p range of
possible values is huge and by huge I mean those values can be
pretty darn small. Rho may easily have most of the remaining power
and are just doing all they can to keep from drooling at the prospect
of a match clinching penalty. As aptly put by Clint Eastwood character
dirty harry "are you feeling lucky punk?"

There is no good reason to assume one way or another what type
of hand p holds. We know they do not hold all of the remaining
power outside of spades !HAQJ !DAJ !CAKQJ there is no way they
would have been quiet over 4s. If RHO was void in spades they very
easily might pass with all that stuff (they won't pass whatever OUR
side bids however). The odds seem very much stacked against you
and sometimes being a hero means doing nothing stupid

PASS


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Posted 2013-May-20, 12:03

Not sure what's best on this hand (I'd probably take some sort of action), but I'm amused that threads called "First board of the match" and "Last board of the match" were posted by Phil and Lesh, respectively. :)
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Posted 2013-May-20, 17:01

The presumptive trump suit () has good texture and this hand may fare better than the other hand where they opened 4, but my vote is still Pass.
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Posted 2013-May-22, 11:35

Depending on what you decide to do in this board the results would be:

Pass - +50
DBL - +100
5di will result in -1100. Even if you decide to go with 4nt you will correct partner's 5cl to 5di which will be the final contract.
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