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#1 User is offline   hrothgar 

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Posted 2013-July-27, 14:00

Relay Responder
AJ973
J
AK96
632

Relay Asker
KQ2
AQT94
82
AKJ
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Posted 2013-July-27, 14:12

View Posthrothgar, on 2013-July-27, 14:00, said:

Relay Responder
AJ973
J
AK96
632

Relay Asker
KQ2
AQT94
82
AKJ


MOSCITO Auction

3 - 4
4 - 5
6

4 show 8 controls
4 starts the scan
5 shows 1-2 controls in Hearts and Diamonds, 0-3 controls in Clubs
At this point in time, RA can place RR with AS, AK of Diamonds

RA asker is sure of 10 tricks and knows that there are two finesses available
Furthermore, there is a decent chance that declarer can ruff a long diamond

Further asks won't help. I think that its worth bidding the slam.

So far, this seems like the hardest hand...
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Posted 2013-July-27, 15:15

View Posthrothgar, on 2013-July-27, 14:00, said:

Relay Responder
AJ973
J
AK96
632

Relay Asker
KQ2
AQT94
82
AKJ

3-4 QP ask; 8
4-4N 1-2 spades, 1-2 diamonds, nothing in clubs
5-5 only 1 spade (already knew)
5-6 2 diamonds, J spade, no J diamonds (so either given hand, or K KQ)
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Posted 2013-July-27, 15:24

3H--4C (S kc, 2noQ)
4D--4S (Kd ? yes but no Kc)
4Nt--5C (QD ? --no)

ill check for K of H and stop at 6S


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Posted 2013-July-27, 15:27

View Postrbforster, on 2013-July-27, 15:15, said:

3-4 QP ask; 8
4-4N 1-2 spades, 1-2 diamonds, nothing in clubs
5-5 only 1 spade (already knew)
5-6 2 diamonds, J spade, no J diamonds (so either given hand, or K KQ)
6


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Posted 2013-July-27, 18:08

... 3 (shape)
3 - 4 (relay for QP, 8)
4 - 4 (relay, one stop spade, 0 or 2 top diamonds)

Can't be zero diamonds, so Axxxx x AKxx xxx or Axxxx x AQxx Qxx or Axxxx K KQxx xxx. All decent slams but no good grands here.

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Posted 2013-July-27, 22:29

View Posthrothgar, on 2013-July-27, 14:00, said:

Relay Responder
AJ973
J
AK96
632

Relay Asker
KQ2
AQT94
82
AKJ


Straube

3-4 QP ask, 8
4-4 PCB, odd spade and even diamond
4N-5 ask, even club
5-6 ask, small heart with SA or SQ with SJ
6

The 5D ask is probably unnecessary
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Posted 2013-July-28, 14:34

3 - 4 (QP? - 8QP)
4 - 5 (control parity - odd, odd KQJ in , odd KQJ in , even in )

At this point, responder possible hands are: AJxxx j AKxx xxx, AJxxx K AJxx xxx. The first hand with HJ plays better in 6NT. The second one plays better in 6NT except on D lead, in which case it makes when HJ falls in 3 rounds (36%) or C finesse (50%) with multiple squeeze chances after a diamond lead is ducked. I rate it to make about 73% on best lead (68% + 5% squeeze chances). I think 6S is slightly better (makes on 4-3, 5-2 the right direction, and 6-1, but some of the 4-3 / 5-2 requires guessing whether to ruff high), probably around 80%.

Since I won't be able to distinguish between AJxxx J AKxx xxx and AJxxx K AJxx xxx, I will go with 6NT when that happens.

5 - 5 (PCB - odd in , no T?)
6NT
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Posted 2013-July-29, 12:50

...-3 (shape)
3-4 (QP ask ; 8)
4-4NT (start scanning ; 1/2 top honors and , 0/3 in )
6-pass (we know Axxxx-?-AKxx-xxx, but impossible to know about K)

Again it would be useful to know about a singleton top honor. With K we can play grand, I wonder how we can find out about this.
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Posted 2013-July-29, 13:08

View PostFree, on 2013-July-29, 12:50, said:

...-3 (shape)
3-4 (QP ask ; 8)
4-4NT (start scanning ; 1/2 top honors and , 0/3 in )
6-pass (we know Axxxx-?-AKxx-xxx, but impossible to know about K)

Again it would be useful to know about a singleton top honor. With K we can play grand, I wonder how we can find out about this.


PCB bidders were able to rule out the stiff K in this particular case.
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