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#1 User is offline   wanoff 

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Posted 2013-December-01, 06:27



Recent IMPs deal.
10 led, East follows with 3.
What's the best line ?
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Posted 2013-December-01, 07:22

The only option i see so far is to find lho with honor doublton in spade, along with diamonds and club breaking nicely.
win the A diamond, A club, ruff one club, Q dimaond K diamonds and all the clubs. now A and another spade.

actually this doesnt really work since if he doesnt have the 10 spade, he can drop the K on the A, but on the other side it will work if east has the honor doublton and the K of hearts.
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Posted 2013-December-01, 07:27

The alternative is to play along cross ruff lines I think, starting K, AKQ, ruff, ruff, A, ruff. You still need nice breaks.
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Posted 2013-December-01, 08:03

 WGF_Flame, on 2013-December-01, 07:22, said:

The only option i see so far is to find lho with honor doublton in spade, along with diamonds and club breaking nicely.
win the A diamond, A club, ruff one club, Q dimaond K diamonds and all the clubs. now A and another spade.

actually this doesnt really work since if he doesnt have the 10 spade, he can drop the K on the A, but on the other side it will work if east has the honor doublton and the K of hearts.


You're right in that trumps and clubs break.
Unfortunately even though East has the K, he doesn't hold Hx.
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Posted 2013-December-01, 10:16

 wanoff, on 2013-December-01, 08:03, said:

You're right in that trumps and clubs break.
Unfortunately even though East has the K, he doesn't hold Hx.


if he holds KQ or KX or QX and the K of heart i would have made, but also if he got Kxx Qxx or xxx or 10xx i make with no relation to the K of heart.
if he got K10x or Q10X i would go down if west will know to throw his honor on my Ace.
In can play the A of spade early which will make it practically imposible to throw the honor.
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Posted 2013-December-01, 12:33

the one I like is this:
ruff a club early and enter dummy with K to run clubs.

if LHO has third trump you bank all on K being third

If RHO has the third trump as looks from the lead however you overruff him leaving this:


Ruff a heart, cash the club and the diamond and hope RHO has K and 3 spades or Hx
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Posted 2013-December-01, 21:37

 wanoff, on 2013-December-01, 06:27, said:


Recent IMPs deal.
10 led, East follows with 3.
What's the best line ?
Without much hope, assuming both minors break favourably ....
Draw trumps. Cash AKQ. Ruff a . Lead a small
If RHO has K and doubleton KQ or singleton K/Q/T, then you are home.
If LHO has KQT(x)(x) or doubleton KQ or singleton K/Q, then you are home.
If LHO rises with an honour from KT or QT, then you are home.
If LHO plays low without stress, then run the and later run dummy's J hoping that LHO started with Tx.
An expert LHO will play the ten from QT, KT, or Tx,. to give you guess
(If LHO plays a smooth ten, You should probably just play him for Tx or T singleton)
An expert LHO might even play low from KQx. Just congratulate him :)
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Posted 2013-December-02, 08:33

Assuming the minors are breaking, draw trumps, cash clubs, ruff a club, ruff a heart and cash the last club, then this remains:

J874 in dummy and A9AQ in hand. Now spade to the ace and another. It wins with Hx in West or with Hx in East together with the K. It also wins with singleton H in East.


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Posted 2013-December-02, 08:55

 lowerline, on 2013-December-02, 08:33, said:

Assuming the minors are breaking, draw trumps, cash clubs, ruff a club, ruff a heart and cash the last club, then this remains:
J874 in dummy and A9AQ in hand. Now spade to the ace and another. It wins with Hx in West or with Hx in East together with the K. It also wins with singleton H in East.
In practice, lowerline may well be successful but if RHO lacks K and has Qx or better, then he can win the second to lead a .
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Posted 2013-December-02, 11:14

 nige1, on 2013-December-01, 21:37, said:


Draw trumps. Cash AKQ. Ruff a . Lead a small
If RHO has K and doubleton KQ or singleton K/Q/T, then you are home.
If LHO has KQT(x)(x) or doubleton KQ or singleton K/Q, then you are home.
If LHO rises with an honour from KT or QT, then you are home.
If LHO plays low without stress, then run the and later run dummy's J hoping that LHO started with Tx.
An expert LHO will play the ten from QT, KT, or Tx,. to give you guess
(If LHO plays a smooth ten, You should probably just play him for Tx or T singleton)
An expert LHO might even play low from KQx. Just congratulate him :)


A good shot, which I'm pretty sure would have worked at the table.
What about following the same line but cashing the A at trick 2 hoping for split honours? I know it would fail miserably here.
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Posted 2013-December-04, 06:32

 wanoff, on 2013-December-02, 11:14, said:

A good shot, which I'm pretty sure would have worked at the table.
What about following the same line but cashing the A at trick 2 hoping for split honours? I know it would fail miserably here.


Thanks, my line :)
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Posted 2013-December-04, 06:42

It looks like the line in #3 works too providing declarer continues with a trump and a spade.
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Posted 2013-December-07, 14:11

 WGF_Flame, on 2013-December-04, 06:32, said:

Thanks, my line :)



Cashing A will fail when clubs are worse than 4-3. Therefore, as it was mentioned playing spades is a texbook example and can provide an end play opportunity as well.
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