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Acol sequences Identical or different in Standard

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Posted 2015-January-03, 12:54

You play strong jump shifts and Acol, so:
1. 1-1-2-2 is to play
2. 1-1-2-3. Is this a game force or just forcing to 3?
3. Then 1-1-2-3-3-3. Is this stronger than:
4. 1-1-2-3?

Identical or different in Standard?
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Posted 2015-January-03, 13:06

View PostWackojack, on 2015-January-03, 12:54, said:

You play strong jump shifts and Acol, so:
1. 1-1-2-2 is to play
2. 1-1-2-3. Is this a game force or just forcing to 3?
3. Then 1-1-2-3-3-3. Is this stronger than:
4. 1-1-2-3?

Identical or different in Standard?

1. To play potentially. It is constructive
2. GF
3,4. Yes, because 3 is GF

Sorry I can't answer your last question because I have no idea what you mean by "Standard". If you mean "Standard American", this is a pretty loosely-defined system and answers will probably vary.
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Posted 2015-January-03, 13:57

2 is GF, 3 is a slam try and 4 is INV

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Posted 2015-January-03, 15:19

I also like to play sequence 1 as constructive. If so, you can agree to play sequence 4 as forcing - this would need prior discussion. Sequences 2 and 3 are game forcing.
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Posted 2015-January-03, 15:34

The sequence 1D-1H-2D-2H should definitely be constructive. The 2D rebid promises a 6-card suit so there is little need for a weak 2H bid.

It is less clear when the response is spades (opener might have 5 diamonds and 4 hearts for the 2 diamond rebid, in which case 2S as a weak bid is reasonable), but I still like to play it as constructive.
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Posted 2015-January-03, 15:41

View Postahydra, on 2015-January-03, 13:57, said:

2 is GF, 3 is a slam try and 4 is INV

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2 and 3 are the same though; why are you differentiating between the two?
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Posted 2015-January-03, 15:48

The sequence 1D-1H-2D-2H should definitely be constructive. The 2D rebid promises a 6-card suit so there is little need for a weak 2H bid.

It is less clear when the response is spades (opener might have 5 diamonds and 4 hearts for the 2 diamond rebid, in which case 2S as a weak bid is reasonable), but I still like to play it as constructive.
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