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(1NT)-X-2♦; 2♥-...
Double shows a 4-card major and a 5-card minor 2♦ asks for the major. And now?
(A) 2NT is "to play" (doubler can correct to a 6-card minor, or even 3NT if opener is the sort to stretch his 1NTs), 3♣ is pass/correct.
(B) 2NT asks for doubler's minor, 3♣ shows 5+ clubs.
© 2NT is a strong invite in hearts, 3♣ is pass/correct.
(D) 2♠ doesn't necessarily show 5 spades and play completely different over (1NT)-X-2♦); 2♠ (surely not).
(E) Other?
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Woolsey Double followup
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Posted 2015-March-14, 18:15
"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision"
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Posted 2015-March-15, 03:43
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Apparently advancer planned to raise spades and doesn't want to pass 2♥. A and B both allow for a shape like 42(34). A caters for 42(52); B caters for 4xx6. The former is more likely. Also, you could probably agree that a 4xx6 shape bids 2♣-2♦-2♠.
C seems like overkill. You already have an invitational 3♠ bid available, and with a "strong invitation" you'd probably just bid game and see if it makes.
Apparently advancer planned to raise spades and doesn't want to pass 2♥. A and B both allow for a shape like 42(34). A caters for 42(52); B caters for 4xx6. The former is more likely. Also, you could probably agree that a 4xx6 shape bids 2♣-2♦-2♠.
C seems like overkill. You already have an invitational 3♠ bid available, and with a "strong invitation" you'd probably just bid game and see if it makes.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2015-March-15, 04:48
Against strong nt I believe we should focus mainly on weak hands. Also because with a hand as strong as yours yesterday I would have passed the double. I don't really believe in natural 2NT bids after their 1NT opening, especially when they play strong nt and especially when we already had a chance to convert a double. I think we can only have game interest here if we have a possible major fit.
3c as p/c is a bit weird. With tollerance for both minors you could have bid 2c.
So advancer has one long minor and I think he can just place the contract. Maybe with 3271 there is a case for offering doubler a choice in case he is 07 in the minors but it's a bit farfetched
2S should be weak with 4-5 spades and a 5+ minor imo.
So 2NT could be a better hand with 4+ spades.
3c as p/c is a bit weird. With tollerance for both minors you could have bid 2c.
So advancer has one long minor and I think he can just place the contract. Maybe with 3271 there is a case for offering doubler a choice in case he is 07 in the minors but it's a bit farfetched
2S should be weak with 4-5 spades and a 5+ minor imo.
So 2NT could be a better hand with 4+ spades.
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Posted 2015-March-17, 04:45
gnasher, on 2015-March-15, 03:43, said:
C seems like overkill. You already have an invitational 3♠ bid available, and with a "strong invitation" you'd probably just bid game and see if it makes.
What does partner bid if he wants to decline this invitation to 4♥?
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Posted 2015-March-18, 01:36
WellSpyder, on 2015-March-17, 04:45, said:
What does partner bid if he wants to decline this invitation to 4♥?
He shuts up and gets on with trying to make it.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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