Regretting a played card Law 45
#1
Posted 2015-March-28, 09:20
#2
Posted 2015-March-28, 09:25
UdcaDenny, on 2015-March-28, 09:20, said:
Assuming no kind of handicap involved: If declarer dropped the ♣ on the table I would say "YES", if he played it I would say "NO".
#4
Posted 2015-March-28, 10:13
UdcaDenny, on 2015-March-28, 09:28, said:
The facts that you had already discarded and that he had not yet played to that trick from dummy are both irrelevant.
The only important question (aside from possible handicap issues) is whether he actually played the card from his hand or accidentally just dropped it with no intent to play it.
#5
Posted 2015-March-28, 10:20
45C2 said:
(a) held face up, touching or nearly touching the table; or
(b) maintained in such a position as to indicate that it has been played.
#6
Posted 2015-March-28, 14:15
Aardv, on 2015-March-28, 10:20, said:
Don't overlook or forget
Law 48A said:
#7
Posted 2015-March-28, 14:45
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#8
Posted 2015-March-30, 06:46
Of course of he had then said 'Oh S**t' then the Director is perfectly correct to allow him to change it. (TIC).
Get the facts. No matter what people say, get the facts from both sides BEFORE you make a ruling or leave the table.
Remember - just because a TD is called for one possible infraction, it does not mean that there are no others.
In a judgement case - always refer to other TDs and discuss the situation until they agree your decision is correct.
The hardest rulings are inevitably as a result of failure of being called at the correct time. ALWAYS penalize both sides if this happens.
#9
Posted 2015-March-30, 07:10
weejonnie, on 2015-March-30, 06:46, said:
Of course of he had then said 'Oh S**t' then the Director is perfectly correct to allow him to change it. (TIC).
No, I don't think so.
The essential distinction is still whether he played it or dropped it.
Intention is only relevant when he exposes (rather than plays) a card. Then the important question is whether he exposed the card with an apparent intent of playing it or for some different reason.
#10
Posted 2015-March-30, 09:44
pran, on 2015-March-30, 07:10, said:
The essential distinction is still whether he played it or dropped it.
I think weejonnie is making a reference to an infamously bad ruling in a 1999 Vanderbilt KO match.
http://www.bridgeace...Oh,%20Shit!.pdf
#11
Posted 2015-March-30, 12:22
barmar, on 2015-March-30, 09:44, said:
http://www.bridgeace...Oh,%20Shit!.pdf
Of course this bears no relation to the thread topic, since the linked case was about a card designated from dummy.
It is likely the declarer did not realise that she had called for a spade until the ♠K appeared. an interesting question is what would have happened had she called the director then and there.