[mr1303]

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Lots of choices. How you begin could create a big swing.

[1eyedjack]

Any initial response other than 1S seems very strange to me,. I am surprised that there were alternative comparisons from which to create a swing.

[Tramticket]

(Assuming 5-card majors), you have a heart fit. So I suppose that a splinter is possible ... Or Jacoby 2NT ... but I think that it is best to show where your values are.

One Spade for me.

[Cyberyeti]

1♠ is really normal, you want to get into spades (or diamonds/NT if the pointies are the other way round) opposite something like Kxx, Axxxx, Kx, Axx

[Fluffy]

My pessimistic view on this type of hands AQ-AQ hands is that there is not going to be a top spot (because partner won't have both kings).

Back to the problem, 1♠ is quite obvious. With reversed quality 2♦ might have some merit.

[wank]

anything except 1s is bizarre

[Vampyr]

Fluffy, on 2016-May-05, 05:48, said:

My pessimistic view on this type of hands AQ-AQ hands is that there is not going to be a top spot (because partner won't have both kings).

Back to the problem, 1♠ is quite obvious. With reversed quality 2♦ might have some merit.

Bypassing a 5-card major is definitely one way to create a swing.

[gszes]

1s

W/o in depth agreements this bid leaves us the most prepared to take advantage of a variety of continuations by partner. This hand might easily play in !S !H !D or (far less likely NT) and the simple 1s bid allows for all of those probabilities (assuming lho does not barrage us with some monster number of clubs that is).

[mr1303]

Ok, so after 1S you get a 1NT reply from partner.

Now what? You don't play checkback after a 1H opening.

[Cyberyeti]

mr1303, on 2016-May-05, 17:59, said:

Ok, so after 1S you get a 1NT reply from partner.

Now what? You don't play checkback after a 1H opening.

3♦ nat GF 5-5 ?

I'm presuming you're playing 5M strong NT, tell me if you're not.

[mr1303]

We are. 2/1 style.

You can bid 3D if you like, which would be GF and would probably show 5 diamonds.

Partner would bid a slow 3H after 3D.

[Cyberyeti]

mr1303, on 2016-May-05, 22:58, said:

We are. 2/1 style.

You can bid 3D if you like, which would be GF and would probably show 5 diamonds.

Partner would bid a slow 3H after 3D.

How well do you know partner ?

Does he bid 1N with a 2524 or 2623 ? I'm suspecting 2533 otherwise.

[lycier]

mr1303, on 2016-May-05, 17:59, said:

Ok, so after 1S you get a 1NT reply from partner.

Now what? You don't play checkback after a 1H opening.

If don't play checkback including nmf and two way stayman etc modern bidding gadgets, that only shows your problem make no sense.

[gszes]

mr1303, on 2016-May-05, 22:58, said:

We are. 2/1 style.

You can bid 3D if you like, which would be GF and would probably show 5 diamonds.

Partner would bid a slow 3H after 3D.

6h

Disagree 3d would show 5+ (and not even sure I would agree it shows 4+ given the bidding). We need a forcing bid (temporizing) and diamonds happen to be the most handy and least space consuming. I say this only because I am assuming 2c/d are NOT forcing. If they are forcing then put me down for 2d.

The 3h bid can be many things but one of the things for sure is that 3n did NOT look appetizing. P club weakness makes our hand better but still leaves us with a puzzle as to the proper strain/level. We have wasted a ton of bidding space and further exploration starts to get murky here since trumps have never been set. I think it is time to go with the odds and just blast 6h. There are a few hands where 7 is right and a few where going beyond 4 is wrong but the middle ground seems to be the place to be when there is insufficient science available.

[rmnka447]

I also would start with 1 ♠ and rebid 3 ♦ playing 2/1 without full knowledge of any bidding agreements over 1 ♠.

Over 3 ♥, however, I'm going to bid 5 ♥. There may some risk in doing so, but it the best I can do to suggest slam. Partner ought to be able envision that my hand is at least something like 4=3=5=1 or 5=3=4=1.

If I were sure that 4 ♦ over 3 ♥ weren't passable, then I'd prefer that bid planning to raise ♥ over partner's next bid. IMO, that should show exactly the hand I have.

Some might disagree because they insist 1 ♠ must be bid over 1 ♥ anytime you have 4 ♠. But if I've got a GF hand with a 5 card ♦ suit and 4 ♠, I'm bidding 2 ♦ and reversing into the 4 card ♠ suit on the second round.

[mr1303]

Well, if you bid 6H you get doubled and go for a lot.

Posted Yesterday, 17:37
View Postmr1303, on 2016-May-06, 07:59, said:
Ok, so after 1S you get a 1NT reply from partner.

Now what? You don't play checkback after a 1H opening.


If don't play checkback including nmf and two way stayman etc modern bidding gadgets, that only shows your problem make no sense.

You don't play these after a 1H opening. You do play them after a 1C or 1D opening.

[mike777]

mr1303, on 2016-May-05, 17:59, said:

Ok, so after 1S you get a 1NT reply from partner.

Now what? You don't play checkback after a 1H opening.

ok

2d whatever that means for you guys.

no problem yet

what do you bid now?

I mean we cannot have a problem yet.....partner is assumed in these forums to be a true expert and you have not told us other

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If partner is a novice you need to inform us

[Cyberyeti]

mike777, on 2016-May-06, 22:12, said:

ok

2d whatever that means for you guys.

no problem yet

what do you bid now?

I mean we cannot have a problem yet.....partner is assumed in these forums to be a true expert and you have not told us other

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If partner is a novice you need to inform us

The problem is that you might play in 2♦, how do you bid the same shape but a 6 count ?

Partner only had Kx, AKxxx, Kxx, xxx and passed for +170 the hard way

[Fluffy]

What is the cheapest forcing bid after 1NT?, I Would rather bid 3♥ than 3♦. But opposite 12-14 balanced maybe 4♣ auto-splinter is the best way to continue. If I am unsure of 3♥ meaning I will try 4♣ and mastermind the hand from now on.

[PhilG007]

Fluffy, on 2016-May-08, 06:59, said:

What is the cheapest forcing bid after 1NT?, I Would rather bid 3♥ than 3♦. But opposite 12-14 balanced maybe 4♣ auto-splinter is the best way to continue. If I am unsure of 3♥ meaning I will try 4♣ and mastermind the hand from now on.

Over a 1NT rebid 3♥ is not forcing but highly invitational The danger with this bid is that partner might
pass if he is minimum and a sure 4♥ would be missed for a rotten score. 3♦ IS forcing to at least
game and suggests a possible slam in either spades or diamonds if partner can help in either suit.
3NT will go down among the dead men and must be avoided at all costs.