[manudude03]

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MPs scoring.
This was from the BBF indy tournament earlier tonight. I was a little surprised about how the people facing this problem acted so I figured I'd throw it out there.

[MrAce]

DBL

If LHO passes 2♥ pd will have hard time to balance with 3-4 hearts and I don't think it scores well very often to defend 2♥ when they are not vulnerable.

[eagles123]

clearly the choice is between X and pass. I'd probably X but i do think its very close

[The_Badger]

Double - reluctantly.

This could get messy (as vulnerable) opposite a passed partner, but I'd take my chance a final contract won't get doubled as North has passed already.

I will nickname this type of double as a "latte double" as it is on the skinny side

[alok c]

DBL,B.O.P is with East-West & West can support balance 3suits.

[akwoo]

Lebensohl or not? (If you're not playing Lebensohl, partner will want to jump with a maximum passed hand.)

[billw55]

I think I will pass.

This auction pins both partner and LHO with fair values, 9-10 points or so. That makes this a partscore deal. Doubling gets us declaring, vulnerable, perhaps not in our best fit (if we have one at all), with bad splits looming and the stiff ♥K in dummy for all to see. I fear that -200 will come too often.

[manudude03]

akwoo, on 2016-August-22, 06:15, said:

Lebensohl or not? (If you're not playing Lebensohl, partner will want to jump with a maximum passed hand.)

Indy tourney, not discussed.

[Jinksy]

Doubling seems clear to me at MPs - P shouldn't get too excited unless he's really got a good hand, and even if we end up a level too high, -100 is better than the -110 I'm anticipating by passing.

[StevenG]

I'll oppose the consensus. For me, 3♣ shows 5 clubs and an opening hand, and denies four spades. I'm not letting them play in 2♥. Partner's going to have to guess whatever I do; I'd rather give as much information as I can.

[manudude03]

My thoughts were that this hand should double, but it is pretty rancid and wouldn't criticise pass. Of the three tables who had this auction, one passed and the other two bid 3C. The 3C bidders hit the proverbial jackpot (who'd have thought you could make a slam here). Full hand and auction at my table.

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[Tramticket]

That's a 1H opening for me.

[Fluffy]

I would pass for sure, I don't normally bid if I don't think I can make game opposite a maximum pass.

[StevenG]

Fluffy, on 2016-August-22, 14:33, said:

I would pass for sure, I don't normally bid if I don't think I can make game opposite a maximum pass.

Even at MPs?

[MrAce]

Fluffy, on 2016-August-22, 14:33, said:

I would pass for sure, I don't normally bid if I don't think I can make game opposite a maximum pass.

It's MP.

[rhm]

MrAce, on 2016-August-22, 20:30, said:

Fluffy, on 2016-August-22, 14:33, said:

I would pass for sure, I don't normally bid if I don't think I can make game opposite a maximum pass.

It's MP.

This might have been a more interesting problem at IMPs.
As the actual layout shows game is not ruled out completely, though it will require a good match.
In the given layout game in clubs is excellent without the black queens.
Even at IMPs a part-score swing is not that cheap either.
The fear of going for a number if you double with the given hand is exaggerated.
Coming in with a stronger balanced hand, where everyone would bid 2NT, is probably more dangerous.

Rainer Herrmann

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I go with pass, ... but X is ok, this is basically a guess.
3C fine, but 6C???

Sry, but the only justifcation for this bid is, that it makes.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[MrAce]

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[manudude03]

P_Marlowe, on 2016-August-23, 04:24, said:

Hi,

I go with pass, ... but X is ok, this is basically a guess.
3C fine, but 6C???

Sry, but the only justifcation for this bid is, that it makes.

With kind regards
Marlowe

I thought about posting this hand as a problem from East's perspective, but I figured you really don't need a lot for 6C to make as partner is marked with heart shortage. Kxx x xxx AKxxxx is completely cold, Kxx x xxxx AKxxx only requires clubs to break 2-1. Of course there is no guarantee that partner has the king of spades, but even then it might just be on a finesse.

[P_Marlowe]

manudude03, on 2016-August-23, 05:03, said:

I thought about posting this hand as a problem from East's perspective, but I figured you really don't need a lot for 6C to make as partner is marked with heart shortage. Kxx x xxx AKxxxx is completely cold, Kxx x xxxx AKxxx only requires clubs to break 2-1. Of course there is no guarantee that partner has the king of spades, but even then it might just be on a finesse.

I agree, if you hit partner with diamond shortage or no wastage in diamond, but why should he have diamond shortage
/ no diamond wastage? Given the auction, what hints do you have?
I can follow the argument to make slam try, but bidding it, as a passed hand?