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Favourable at teams, you're in fourth seat, and the auction starts 1S P 2S ...
What's your call? Does it make a difference if LHO could have only 4 spades?
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Posted 2017-February-18, 12:12
The "4♥ is a transfer to 4♠" award goes to Jinksy - PhilKing
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Posted 2017-February-18, 14:31
seems clear to make a game try (bid game try and make 
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"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
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Posted 2017-February-18, 15:20
eagles123, on 2017-February-18, 14:31, said:
seems clear to make a game try (bid game try and make )
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Posted 2017-February-18, 19:35
3H is too few here, and you don't have time to double then bid hearts.
Agree with the 4H then double 4S bidders.
Agree with the 4H then double 4S bidders.
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Posted 2017-February-19, 01:35
4 ♥.
A 3 ♥ bid could be made on a lot less. So bidding that terribly understates the hand. You will be giving your opponents an additional level to sort out their hands. If the opponents bid on to 3 ♠, then what? If you take the push, you may be giving the opponents a fielder's choice.
It's better to bid 4 ♥ quickly and let them make the next decision with as little information as possible to go on. There is some danger of possibly pushing them to a vulnerable game they might not otherwise bid. It looks like you've probably got at least 3 tricks. A second ♥ trick might be iffy. But Partner has some ways to produce a fourth trick - stiff ♥ and ruff, possible trump promotion, or side suit trick.
I'd also double 4 ♠, if they bid it. It only costs an extra 200 points or so, if they make, which gives them a couple more IMPs vs. an undoubled game. But if 4 ♥ makes, doubling may be necessary to offset the potential game swing as much as possible when 4 ♠ goes down.
A 3 ♥ bid could be made on a lot less. So bidding that terribly understates the hand. You will be giving your opponents an additional level to sort out their hands. If the opponents bid on to 3 ♠, then what? If you take the push, you may be giving the opponents a fielder's choice.
It's better to bid 4 ♥ quickly and let them make the next decision with as little information as possible to go on. There is some danger of possibly pushing them to a vulnerable game they might not otherwise bid. It looks like you've probably got at least 3 tricks. A second ♥ trick might be iffy. But Partner has some ways to produce a fourth trick - stiff ♥ and ruff, possible trump promotion, or side suit trick.
I'd also double 4 ♠, if they bid it. It only costs an extra 200 points or so, if they make, which gives them a couple more IMPs vs. an undoubled game. But if 4 ♥ makes, doubling may be necessary to offset the potential game swing as much as possible when 4 ♠ goes down.
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Posted 2017-February-26, 18:17
the minority report returns and it seems x got outvoted by hmmm I guess technically it was unanimous. I think the 4h x 4s bidders are not looking at the risk vs reward concept of IMPS enough. If p has completely nothing for us 4333 nothing bigger than a 5 spot we still rate to go down only 2 in 5h. Note that that same combination of hands would seem to make 4s also unbeatable. Starting with x followed by at worst 5h will give p a vastly superior idea of our hand vs a 4h jump followed by x which I would save for a hand like A QJTxxxxx AK Ax where I have strong expectation of taking 4 defensive tricks. nuff said lets see if any minds can be changed.
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