[Cyberyeti]

 rhm, on 2018-November-20, 15:53, said:

This has nothing to do with the question whether you might go down in game or not.
I go down in game often enough when I do not open 2♣
Some people like you seem to think when you open 2♣ game must be underwritten by Llyods.
It is this attitude which is anything but optimal.
Game is odds on even if partner might pass 1♠.
That infrequent hands can be constructed, where game is poor, is irrelevant.
Slam is very hard to bid with confidence when you open 1♠ with such hands, because responder will rarely cooperate and opener will often bid poor slams because he tries to catch up after opening with a non forcing bid.
Try bidding slam when responder holds for example 4♠4♥4♦1♣ and a near yarborough when you open 1♠.
Nothing is close about this hand.

Rainer Herrmann

Selective quoting FTW, my comment was in response to:

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This hand will make game unless partner is broke and has a total misfit with you.

And I quoted a hand where partner is neither and game is terrible.

4 trumps and a side singleton should not be passing opposite 1♠.

We play 2♣ forcing to game unless followed by 2N, so our minimum will be a little better than yours.

We also I suspect respond a little lighter than you do to 1 openers.

[HardVector]

 thepossum, on 2018-November-15, 15:57, said:

You are not supposed to abuse 2C although I have stretched that a bit sometimes.

This quote answers any questions you may have. If you do it sometimes, you abuse the 2c bid.