[blackshoe]

Gilithin, on 2022-May-13, 02:40, said:

It just means bidding 2♣ and passing the response. The problem is that Garbage Stayman is used interchangeably both for this and for Crawling Stayman - bidding 2♣ and following with a natural non-forcing call (most often 2♥) showing 2 places to play.

I suppose that's one solution to the problem. The other is not to let some nimrod (not you, Gilithin) who doesn't know what he's talking about define what should be defined as "Crawling Stayman" as "Garbage Stayman".

[thepossum]

I was interested in this but the above discussion is much more complicated than Smolen

As for 55 still working on it. Maybe transfer to your best major and take it from there (risk of being passed). Or even improvise with Smolen with 55

Just Stayman and keep trying to show your suits somehow if strong enough

Remind me never to join a Bridge class. I would never get past improver class. Maybe I would never even get into it

[apollo1201]

thepossum, on 2022-May-20, 00:16, said:

As for 55 still working on it.

If you’re very weak, it is better to transfer to S. That avoids the 2D transfer being Xed and they compete to 3D. And if they still compete, maybe your hand is worth balancing and you can cheaply show your H suit.

As for game invites (which can be light in HCPs given the shape, K 5th twice is enough), game strength, slam invites and slam hands, it then depends on what your Stayman (and Xfers) continuations are. And probably where you live too!

[Douglas43]

The EBU magazine has an article on this topic this month.by Sarah Bell