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Posted 2024-November-27, 19:57

An interesting hand from the game today
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Posted 2024-November-27, 20:15

2S
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Posted 2024-November-27, 23:42

Not your traditional Weak 2, but 2 if you have the methods to show the 2nd suit (at least 65) over an enquiry.
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Posted 2024-November-28, 00:55

Just watch me while I pull a rabbit out of my hat.
I have no methods like that.
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Posted 2024-November-28, 01:09

I have methods to show 6M5m over 2, but this is a 4 opening.
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Posted 2024-November-28, 01:56

Hi,

it is either Pass or 4S, I prefer Pass, but 4S is ok as well.

Both can work out great or bad.

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Posted 2024-November-28, 02:42

4 says single-suited to me
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Posted 2024-November-28, 03:15

I don't like 2 with this hand.

Agree with P_Marlowe --- it's a Pass or 4 situation. I too marginally prefer Pass to 4
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Posted 2024-November-28, 04:00

View Postmw64ahw, on 2024-November-28, 02:42, said:

4 says single-suited to me


Yes it does. So does 2S.
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Posted 2024-November-28, 04:10

Playing my old methods I could show 5-5, but now I play a multi and no way I'm doing that. 4 or pass, probably 4 in some other vuls and positions, pass here.
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Posted 2024-November-28, 12:48

You decide or misclick,on 2


How do you describe this playing ogust? No point using feature ask here
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Posted 2024-November-28, 12:59

4C
No problem yet...
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Posted 2024-November-28, 13:40

4C response to ogust shows this hand?
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Posted 2024-November-28, 13:45

View Postjillybean, on 2024-November-28, 13:40, said:

4C response to ogust shows this hand?
I understand Ogust only goes up to 3NT, so I have bypassed Ogust response for some reason.

I did not open 1S so I must have less than:

AT9xxx..x..void..ATxxxx
or
AT9xxx..void...xxx...ATxx

I bid at Unfav. vulnerability, so I cant have zero...
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Posted 2024-November-28, 16:09

View Postmike777, on 2024-November-28, 13:45, said:

I understand Ogust only goes up to 3NT, so I have bypassed Ogust response for some reason.

I did not open 1S so I must have less than:

AT9xxx..x..void..ATxxxx
or
AT9xxx..void...xxx...ATxx

I bid at Unfav. vulnerability, so I cant have zero...


Understand your spirit, but I would not risk 4 without discussion, could be either suit (and what if she has xxx) or a control in a hand very close to 1.
We are unlikely to have slam, quite likely to have game: 4.
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Posted 2024-November-28, 16:09

View Postmike777, on 2024-November-28, 13:45, said:

I understand Ogust only goes up to 3NT, so I have bypassed Ogust response for some reason.

I did not open 1S so I must have less than:

AT9xxx..x..void..ATxxxx
or
AT9xxx..void...xxx...ATxx

I bid at Unfav. vulnerability, so I cant have zero...


Understand your spirit, but I would not risk 4, even if you are certain she would take it as second suit (what if she has xxxx) rather than a control in a hand very close to opening 1.
We are vulnerable and unlikely to have slam, quite likely to have game: I would go easy on companion and bid 4 now.
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Posted 2024-November-28, 16:42

View Postmike777, on 2024-November-28, 12:59, said:

4C
No problem yet...

I've started playing a response structure to 2N where you can show 5+ of a 2nd suit with/without a void or max/min.
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Posted 2024-November-28, 17:21

View Postmw64ahw, on 2024-November-28, 16:42, said:

I've started playing a response structure to 2N where you can show 5+ of a 2nd suit with/without a void or max/min.
Sophisticated..
I just prefer 2S-2NT asks for shortness
2S-3C asks for feature

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Posted 2024-November-28, 18:31

I appreciate your creativity but we have only very basic responses to work with. Some version of;
3 bad bad
3 bad hand good suit
3 good hand. bad suit
3. good good

How would you describe this hand?
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Posted 2024-November-28, 19:14

4s. no defense and it takes so little to make game. Why make it easy for the opps to enter the bidding? The neat part about this hand is, if partner is the one going slamming, 4n will get us to the best place (unless you are using those insipid jumps to the 6 level to show key cards and a void ewwwwwwwww).
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