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how not to go to six spades
#2
Posted 2025-May-04, 07:35
It's entirely normal to be in slam here, though 6NT and 6♣ are better than 6♠. If your auction is sufficiently informative and flexible you might be able to find one of the better slams. However, in the N/B forum, I would not worry about it. Confirming the fit and sharing hand strength, then checking key cards, is already plenty challenging. Once that sort of thing is routine (provided you have the hand for it, of course) it becomes interesting to look into expanding your slam agreements. It's simply rare for this to matter, and less common still to accurately diagnose it during the bidding.
#5
Posted 2025-May-04, 08:27
Playing what I play:
1♠(4+♠, but only 4 if 15-bad 19 4333)-2♣ (nat, only 3 if exactly 3433, not GF)
2N (GF not always balanced)-3♣(5+♣)
4♣-4♦(kickback)
4♥(0/3)-4♠(♣Q?)
4N (yes no side K, but something else than might be useful)-6N (partner must have one of the pointy Q's, even if they have both 7 is not likely to be good)
That is not an NB auction, but consider what S needs to know to place the contract:
N has ♣KQxxx, the two aces and not the ♠K. 6N is as good as 6♠ pretty much always and definitely if partner has a queen with his aces and kings.
6♣ only makes when 6N doesn't if both spades are offside and you're a trick light because partner doesn't have ♦Q or the 5th club. So if you reckon most people are bidding slam, you want to be in 6N.
1♠(4+♠, but only 4 if 15-bad 19 4333)-2♣ (nat, only 3 if exactly 3433, not GF)
2N (GF not always balanced)-3♣(5+♣)
4♣-4♦(kickback)
4♥(0/3)-4♠(♣Q?)
4N (yes no side K, but something else than might be useful)-6N (partner must have one of the pointy Q's, even if they have both 7 is not likely to be good)
That is not an NB auction, but consider what S needs to know to place the contract:
N has ♣KQxxx, the two aces and not the ♠K. 6N is as good as 6♠ pretty much always and definitely if partner has a queen with his aces and kings.
6♣ only makes when 6N doesn't if both spades are offside and you're a trick light because partner doesn't have ♦Q or the 5th club. So if you reckon most people are bidding slam, you want to be in 6N.
#6
Posted 2025-May-04, 12:20
Hi,
if you agreed spade as trump suit, RKCB should tell you that you are missing 1KC and the Queen of trumps.
This assumes, you are playing RKCB (N/B may or may not play it), if you know about those two missing cards
you should stay out, if you only know about missing 1KC you should bid it.
With kind regards
Marlowe
if you agreed spade as trump suit, RKCB should tell you that you are missing 1KC and the Queen of trumps.
This assumes, you are playing RKCB (N/B may or may not play it), if you know about those two missing cards
you should stay out, if you only know about missing 1KC you should bid it.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#7
Posted 2025-May-04, 14:41
mw64ahw, on 2025-May-04, 07:45, said:
The way I approach this is to put non-minimum 3-card raises through 2♣ only if I have 5+♣ headed by a K or better. So
1♠ - 2♣
? - 3♠
automatically provides a choice especially when a slam is on.
1♠ - 2♣
? - 3♠
automatically provides a choice especially when a slam is on.
The way I (and almost everybody in Italy) approach this is that 2♣ is a game force that does not promise clubs and does not promise or deny any spades fit.
But now if partner raises to 3♣ showing a non-minimum two suiter with decent clubs, I know we have a great 9+card clubs fit and raise that, inviting a control-bid or whatever other slam-seeking continuation the partnership has agreed.
#8
Posted 2025-May-04, 15:58
pescetom, on 2025-May-04, 14:41, said:
The way I (and almost everybody in Italy) approach this is that 2♣ is a game force that does not promise clubs and does not promise or deny any spades fit.
But now if partner raises to 3♣ showing a non-minimum two suiter with decent clubs, I know we have a great 9+card clubs fit and raise that, inviting a control-bid or whatever other slam-seeking continuation the partnership has agreed.
But now if partner raises to 3♣ showing a non-minimum two suiter with decent clubs, I know we have a great 9+card clubs fit and raise that, inviting a control-bid or whatever other slam-seeking continuation the partnership has agreed.
The way I do it both partners know of the double fit so you can exit in 4♠ if the slam isn't on.
#9
Posted 2025-May-04, 19:45
Please don't post hands from the forum daylong until it's over; everyone gets the same hands in this tournament.
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