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GIB 2/1 Robots Suck, need SA Robot Option Players need option to Swap out 2/1 robot to SA robot .

#1 User is offline   kernsy 

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Posted Yesterday, 08:07

GIB 2/1 Robots Suck, need SA Robot Option
Maybe a basic SEF Robot too
Most basic bridge books teach basic SA
Consider New & Weak players , you’re hurting them
There are 3 versions of confusing 2/1 for new players
It’s like trying to remember every Precision bidding sequence
Players need option to Swap out 2/1 robot to SA robot .
Swap out at any point of game between hands !!
Use KERNSY Profile example SA with Common Conventions ?!
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Posted Yesterday, 11:01

If you join BBO+, you can choose between a few robot systems for your table. SEF isn't one of them, but you can choose SAYC or Acol Precision.

I also think 2/1 is taught more frequently in the US than you think.

This post has been edited by diana_eva: Yesterday, 13:32
Reason for edit: fixed system


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Posted Yesterday, 13:34

View Postkernsy, on 2025-August-06, 08:07, said:

GIB 2/1 Robots Suck, need SA Robot Option
Maybe a basic SEF Robot too
Most basic bridge books teach basic SA
Consider New & Weak players , you're hurting them
There are 3 versions of confusing 2/1 for new players
It's like trying to remember every Precision bidding sequence
Players need option to Swap out 2/1 robot to SA robot .
Swap out at any point of game between hands !!
Use KERNSY Profile example SA with Common Conventions ?!


There are a few tourneys that use SAYC robots as well:

BBO SAYC Daylong Tournament (available daily)
ACBL Non-Life Master Daylong (available daily, if you are interested in ACBL Masterpoints)
If you join BBO+ the Saturday BBO+ Get Together

None of them are peculiarly popular (at least not because of the robot system).

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Posted Yesterday, 16:39

peculiarly - particularly?
Maybe both work :)
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Posted Yesterday, 17:07

View Postkernsy, on 2025-August-06, 08:07, said:

GIB 2/1 Robots Suck, need SA Robot Option
Maybe a basic SEF Robot too
Most basic bridge books teach basic SA
Consider New & Weak players , you’re hurting them

Most advanced and expert players who play a natural system play 2/1 AFAIK. If you only play SA, your chances of playing with advanced players is greatly reduced. Also, online, seeing somebody's profiles saying the only play SA and not 2/1 is a major sign that this player is a beginner or novice player and most advanced plus online players are not willing to play with beginners and novices. If you only play with other beginners and novices, you've got a much longer road to getting to intermediate or advanced stage.
As far as robots go, if you think 2/1 robots suck, how do you think SA robots are going to stack up? Whatever development has been done since GIB was bought by BBO has been concentrated on the 2/1 system.
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