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Posted Yesterday, 17:55

It makes no sense to me, smaller game today with just 14 tables but plenty of interesting, computer dealt hands.
(the complaining about computer dealt hands has stopped)





Strong nt, I assume do you check for a heart fit? Take it from here.
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Posted Yesterday, 18:30

Probably would just have bid 6NT
Immediately so I could take snack break.
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Posted Yesterday, 18:44

View Postmike777, on 2025-August-06, 18:30, said:

Probably would just have bid 6NT
Immediately so I could take snack break.

Does you partner have any issue with you putting down dummy then leaving the table?
I hazard a guess this would only happen in NA
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Posted Yesterday, 19:25

3, agreeing hearts. Keep control bidding until we find out about spades.
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Posted Yesterday, 20:11

View Postjillybean, on 2025-August-06, 18:44, said:

Does you partner have any issue with you putting down dummy then leaving the table?
I hazard a guess this would only happen in NA



snack room just a few steps away, take a cookie or two and return to table.
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Posted Yesterday, 20:34

View Postsmerriman, on 2025-August-06, 19:25, said:

3, agreeing hearts. Keep control bidding until we find out about spades.




What does 3!s say?
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Posted Yesterday, 21:37

3. Confirms heart fit and encourages an investigation into a slam.
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Posted Yesterday, 22:50

It is standard in NA, amongst experienced partnerships, to play that 1N 2C 2M 3OM is a slam try in the major opener bid. It’s usually balanced or semi balanced since splinters are available. However, with a very strong hand I might well not splinter since splinters tend to suggest slam will be good if partner has little astate, and with a very good hand I’m not that worried about wastage,

That last part was a digression: this hand is an easy 3S bid, requesting cue bidding.

An alternative approach that has some, though fewer, adherents is Baze, invented by the late Grant Baze.

There, 3S would be a splinter in any of the side suits….opener bids 3N if interested and 4H with a non suitable hand. 4C is the big balanced heart raise. 4D instead would be keycard in hearts, but one should generally strain to avoid keycard with an uncontrolled suit…here it is just possible that we have 33 hcp missing the heart AK plus I’m not convinced I know how to find grand after launching directly into keycard.
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Posted Today, 00:33



Key card?
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Posted Today, 02:07

When we are in a cue bidding auction, NT bids substitute for the most expensive cue bid so 3N over 3 would be a spade cue, so 3-3N-4-4 would save some space even though it wouldn't be that useful in this case except that 4 would ask aces for us. I don't think you can find out whether partner has all the cards for 7 as shape also matters.

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is 12 tricks in hearts or NT with no chance of 13

The same hand 2443 or 3442 is 13 in hearts or NT, but 3424 is only 12
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Posted Today, 03:30

Depending on partner 3 as above or 4 showing control & denying control
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