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#1 User is offline   bluenikki 

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Posted Yesterday, 10:42

I held in third seat at matchpoints

Axx
Axx
AKT9x
QJ

The bidding went 1 - 2 ; 2NT. I bid 3, believing it showed slam interest.

Partner bid 4. I lacked the courage to bid 5. I passed, the wrong decision.

Partner had

KQJxx
xxx
Qx
Axx

Partner believes I should have bid 4NT over 4, an action I find repulsive.

Is she supposed to bid a frivolous 4 over 3? Otherwise, what are we supposed to do?

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Posted Yesterday, 11:35

Playing Serious 3NT partner has an easy 4 cuebid

Even not playing serious partner has a 6 loser hand and should still cuebid
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Posted Yesterday, 12:09

In my opinion both of you misbid, though not by equal amounts.

On the start 1-2; 2NT, opener has already show the 5332 - assuming the 2NT bid is natural and shows the shape. What's more, 12-14 is assumed until proven otherwise. With 15-17, open 1NT. With 18-19, continue over a possible signoff by partner knowing we have a combined 30+. Therefore, after your 3 rebid, partner had an absolute maximum - 14 HCP, two key cards and the queen, even the Q is working. On this start this hand is the biggest maximum you can hold, and the suggestion of bidding only a nonserious 4 is underselling the hand a lot, let alone the actual signoff of 4.

Conversely, I think your hand is strong enough to keep bidding even opposite a minimum. You have a lot of controls and a likely source of tricks, I would brave the 5-level. Partner's 4 shows a minimum 5332 without many controls, but that last fact isn't too surprising as we hold so many. It might be right on balance to pass 4 if partner is both careful with hand evaluation and familiar with gadgets like (non)Serious 3NT, but even then I think I might bid one more time. I don't like 4NT over 4 - in my opinion 5 is a fine alternative - but I think pass is too conservative.
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Posted Today, 10:11

I think I would have passed the 4S with your hand, at least playing with my usual partners. I would have expected a bid of 4C from them if they held an A or K in that suit and so I would assume 2 club losers.

But I am no expert.
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Posted Today, 12:05

View PostDavidKok, on 2025-September-01, 12:09, said:

the suggestion of bidding only a nonserious 4 is underselling the hand a lot, let alone the actual signoff of 4.


Do you mean opener has a better round-3 call than 4?
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Posted Today, 12:14

View PostDavidKok, on 2025-September-01, 12:09, said:

the suggestion of bidding only a nonserious 4 is underselling the hand a lot


Do you mean opener has a better round-3 call than 4?
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Posted Today, 12:22

View Postbluenikki, on 2025-September-02, 12:14, said:

Do you mean opener has a better round-3 call than 4?
If you play Serious 3NT, so that 4 is nonserious, I think 3NT is a better bid. Over partner's 4 we show the club control by bidding 4. Opener's hand is really strong within the range, and by agreement a nonserious cue is weaker.
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