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Hand evaluation (2)

Poll: Pass or invite ? (47 member(s) have cast votes)

Pass or invite ?

  1. Pass (15 votes [31.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.91%

  2. 2NT (29 votes [61.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 61.70%

  3. Others (3 votes [6.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.38%

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#1 User is offline   Chamaco 

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Posted 2005-November-21, 02:30

Matchpoints, all vuln

Pard deals and open a weak NT, (12)13-15.

Opps are silent, and you hold

K9x-KJT9x-K8x-Tx

Playing no sophisticated methods, you first transfer to hearts, and when the bidding comes back, you have to decide (if you didn't yet) whether to pass or invite at matchpoints.

If you invite, pard will accept with most "normal" 14 count.
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Posted 2005-November-21, 03:30

Hi,

I Pass, but it'is close, the only nice thing is,
you are playing MP.

Marlowe
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Posted 2005-November-21, 03:42

Partner can have 15. I have 10 with a 5-cards suit and nice intermediate cards so even at MP this a clear invite for me.

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Posted 2005-November-21, 04:01

Yes, I would invite. I would prefer to make a Keri-style invite where I could've stopped at the 2 level opposite most minima.

I'd expect to go down if partner passed or bid 3H though
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Posted 2005-November-21, 05:08

If pard is good: 3NT
If pard is ok: 2NT
If pard messes up: pass :)
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Posted 2005-November-21, 06:20

This hand is the transfer hole, a hand that wants to invite if only partner has a fit.
See http://www.geocities...dge/weaknt.html for a solution :)

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Posted 2005-November-21, 08:26

Interesting point by Gerben. I hadn't replied initially as I was debating passing 1NT. I think I would just transfer to 2 and pass if partner does not super-accept. We have all soft values and also a 5332 shape making game not very likely in 4. 3NT might be right, but it will be tough to get there if partner has 3.
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Posted 2005-November-21, 08:27

I invite.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2005-November-21, 09:30

I don't invite, I simply get to it: 3NT. Put pressure on the defense to find five tricks.
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Posted 2005-November-21, 10:00

2NT seems about right.
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Posted 2005-November-21, 10:49

I invite via 2N

I have a good 10 count with wonderful spots. This is not, for me, a 'soft' hand: for me soft hands are rich in quacks. This is an almost pure control hand, with 10's and 9's. As such it is a moderate upgrade.

Pass is too anti-field, since partner may have 15 and the entire field will be in game if they play strong notrumps.

Blasting game is also anti-field, since partner may have 13.

Inviting is just right :( . If partner has 15 we are back with the field. If he has 13, we may be one-level higher than the field, but we have enough extras to make that okay. If partner has a reasonable 14, then we are going to be slightly against the field, but in a good way, because this is a full-value (and then some) 10 count.
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Posted 2005-November-21, 12:27

Close, but I pass.

Clear 2NT at IMPs.

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Posted 2005-November-21, 13:03

i would have passed originally
and then if opps get in the bidding the fun starts
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Posted 2005-November-21, 14:09

I pass here but bid 2N at IMPs. Game is unlikely.
A bit of blatant self-pimping - I've got a new poker book that's getting good reviews.
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Posted 2005-November-21, 14:17

2NT and I like blasting 3NT better than passing. However I would not have transfered. With a hand this no trump oriented, I would bid Stayman, intending to play in hearts only on a nine card fit and wouldn't criticize 2NT direct, giving the enemy no information.
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Posted 2005-November-22, 08:52

I would pass, however I am not really familiar with this range.
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Posted 2005-November-22, 09:08

2N. Can't be +110 when everyone else is +120 +150. If partner raises, that's OK too as my hand has spots, controls, and a source of tricks.

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Posted 2005-November-22, 09:19

Pass, just, but very close.
Invite (2NT) at imps.
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Posted 2005-November-23, 18:52

It is a clear invitational hand: nice controls, and nice intermediates. Passing would be against the field if opener has a 15 HCP hand.
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Posted 2005-November-24, 05:26

Since it's MP I invite with 2NT, but I wouldn't mind 3NT too. At IMPs I bid 3NT after the transfer.

When HCP are borderline, as here, what matters (especially at NT) is the fillers, and mine are excellent: two Tens and two Nines with semisolid hearts.

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