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#1 User is offline   tysen2k 

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Posted 2006-February-17, 11:17

Scoring: MP

Our side never bids:

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1 1NT
3NT All Pass


What's your lead? Do you have the same lead at IMPs?
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Posted 2006-February-17, 11:40

tysen2k, on Feb 17 2006, 12:17 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

Our side never bids:

     1
1 1NT
3NT All Pass


What's your lead? Do you have the same lead at IMPs?

Low Club
my longest suit but look forward to other possible answers.
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Posted 2006-February-17, 11:43

at MP... Spade Queen. I'm sure there will be some who lead the spade 4 but this is just wayyyyyy too big in my opinion. clubs versus spades is interesting, but I think there is enough likelihood that they take 11 tricks if I don't lead spades to justify a spade lead. I lead the queen because I have most of my side's HCP so the risk of confusing parnter is negligible, and it may confuse the opp and make him try to block the suit if I lead the 4 next.

at IMPs... hmm harder. I think I'll still lead the spade queen. It's got a good chance to set up some tricks. Maybe we have 3 spades a heart and a fast trick, or the bad breaks will just doom declarer. It's possible this will give up the 9th trick, but I think it's worth the risk. Club seems very reasonable at imps.
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Posted 2006-February-17, 11:44

I lead the K at mps. Who knows? Partner may hold Axx or 10xx. More realistically, I would be concerned that this is a power auction, in which LHO may well have extras. He will bid 3N with 16 counts, since his partner has limited his hand. Thus there is a real danger that a non lead will blow a tempo and the opps will take 11-12 tricks.

At mps, there is little percentage in getting cute with a low lead.

At imps, I'd still lead the K. It would be interesting if I held KQJxx, but of course I couldn't have that plus the A anyway.

The only other lead I'd think of at imps would be a , but I really don't think that this will lead to a plus: LHO rates to be 4=2=(43/34) since he did not check back for a fit, did not suggest a contract, and did not respond 2/1 in a 5 card minor while holding opening values. And RHO rates to be 2=5=3=3, altho of course he might be 3=5=3=2 or even 2=5=4=2 with a weak suit (and there are other, lesser, possibilities where a would work, especially if LHO is a poor player or a BBO 'expert'... when he might well have 4=2=5=2 with 13 points :P ). I only have one entry to the suit, which will be attacked early, and I simply do not expect partner to have long enough and/or enough red suit entries to warrant a attack.
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Posted 2006-February-17, 11:44

The opponents are going to play hearts and/or diamonds. Partner doesn't have very much (at most something like 4 points and quite possibly less). At MPs I think a spade lead is clear. This guarantees 3 tricks after opponents knock out the heart ace, and we may get 4 tricks if partner has the spade ten or some other trick.

At IMPs a club lead is more tempting, since a spade won't set the contract (well unless partner has the ace).
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Posted 2006-February-17, 12:00

hmm with AKQx or KQJx and you know opp have a 4 card holding in the suit is not leading low the correct technical lead?
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Posted 2006-February-17, 12:11

Depends what your objectives are, Mike. Leading low here could easily cost the tempo to get to your spade tricks which would be disastrous at MPs, so I'd lead a top spade. At IMPs our aim is basically to get 5 tricks, so I'd probably try a low spade hoping for 3 spade tricks, the AH and another trick somewhere.
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Posted 2006-February-17, 12:22

MickyB, on Feb 17 2006, 01:11 PM, said:

Depends what your objectives are, Mike. Leading low here could easily cost the tempo to get to your spade tricks which would be disastrous at MPs, so I'd lead a top spade. At IMPs our aim is basically to get 5 tricks, so I'd probably try a low spade hoping for 3 spade tricks, the AH and another trick somewhere.

Ya even at MP.....if we choose to lead a spade do we risk blowing a tempo or lead high? Do not see why leading high should be automatic at MP?
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Posted 2006-February-17, 12:23

Well at mps, leading the SK is clear. At imps leading the spade 4 is tempting, but I am not up for it, since the opps might have been stretching and partner actually has a 5 count. But I could be convinced that I am wrong.
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Posted 2006-February-17, 16:45

I actually chose the 9, which I think is the right lead at IMPs, but the wrong one here. I think I was a little optimistic about my chances to knock out the club honors with my entries. However, I think you have to try for that line at IMPs.

Declarer took 12 tricks when a high spade keeps declarer to 10.
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Posted 2006-February-18, 05:08

Small spade. Textbook lead to avoid blockages in case pard has Tx, Ax or 9x and declarer misguesses.

At matchpoints, spade king is a possibility.
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Posted 2006-February-18, 08:10

Jlall, on Feb 17 2006, 12:43 PM, said:

at MP... Spade Queen. ~~I lead the queen because I have most of my side's HCP so the risk of confusing parnter is negligible, and it may confuse the opp and make him try to block the suit if I lead the 4 next.

this is the kind of lead that gives me headaches.. you just *know* rho has the king, so it may be right to take the queen with the ace
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Posted 2006-February-19, 04:52

This was interesting!
I'm convinced now that K is the best lead at MP's. Before reading this I would doubt between K and small , now K seems a lot better at MP's - not intending to defeat 3NT, but make the max. number of tricks.
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