[cherdano]

Is 2S game force? If yes, then partner wasn't really balancing, he was just following our encouragement to bid on. In that case, I would make a second forcing pass.

If 2S wasn't GF, then...I don't know, I wouldn't pass 4S in that case I think.
Where do you find these crazy opponent's btw?

[pclayton]

If I knew RHO was going to bid this like a lunatic, I wouldnt have cued. I'm a little stuck, but pard seems to be bidding like a guy that doesnt have any spade wastage. 6♦.

[Echognome]

1. I would have bid 3♣, but I don't have a problem with 2♠.
2. Since I've GF'd, I agree with pass as I don't know wtf to do and maybe partner does.
3. I pass as I still don't know wtf to do.
4. I agree!

[Impact]

1. Sure 2S is good and 3NT/4H is on the cards, I have 7 likely tricks for NT and he has made a competitive 2/1 which promises (at least) a rebid. No other bid will leave me better placed...do I assume you were not playing Fit-showing jumps so that his 2H bid already excluded 5+H with 4+D?

1a) I assume partner's 3H simply confirmed length (usually 6th H?), and no S stopper. I also assume that he would have bid 3m descriptive had he held 4cards in one of those suits (again assuming no FSJ)

2. Yes, my Pass (over 4S) is forcing. 2S forced to game & as I have H tolerance and shortage in their suit, having forced to game I am encouraging him to either bid my suit - or with a suitable hand of his own to bid 5H (double from him would suggest a misfit for D without great H).

3. After he bid 5D I start to think about 6H & 3D (although it is still conceivable that he has only 5H & 3D with 32 in blacks but virtually no wastage). Given that he has no D Honour a reasonable minimum hand for him might be xx AKQxx xxx xxx if that includes DT 11 tricks is fair+
Change the hand slightly so it is xx AKxxxx Txx Kx and I am not unhappy about slam prospects....but if CKx was only Qx I would be much less sanguine. Is xx KQxxx xxx KQx not also possible.....
If I pass now I should abide by his likely double as he cannot be much stronger (he was willing to stop at 5D after all) and has lousy D from his own standpoint. If he is relatively good controls HAK & CK it must be obvious that I am asking him to bid on, but if he is quacky not so (the difficult hand will be solid H and out but if he held that surely he would have picture -jumped to 4H????)

Given how bad he COULD be, I will let him make the final decision/error by passing over 5S - and abide by his decision.

4. the only excuse (besides incompetence) for the oppos bidding is a presumed black double fit....which tends to support my pass over 5S to encourage bidding 6 (and if he bids 5NT or 6C I will convert to D) but if he doubles I will subside as any bid over his double would be a GST!

regards

[Apollo81]

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. 6♦
4. true dat

My first instinct was to pass on #3 but....you haven't even rebid your diamonds and I think you owe pard this 6♦ bid.

[neilkaz]

Difficult hand, and what does RHO have to decline the first chance to raise ♠ but now to blast to 4 and then 5♠? Does he have a weak mess with lots of ♠ and for some reason didn't preemptively raise ? Is he just fooling around being certain the bidding wouldn't stop at a low level ?

Anyhow..who knows exactly what he has ? I agree with your bidding and now very slightly prefer a forcing pass of 5♠ to a direct 6♦ bid.

Looking forward to seeing the full hands here .. neilkaz ..

[kenrexford]

My suspicion is that RHO has something like ♠AKJxx ♥0 ♦xxxx ♣Kxxx (or reverse the reds) and that this stupid 5♠ contract will make an overtrick. I also suspect that we will have to guess which red suit fit to bid at the six, or possibly seven, level to go minus 100/300 instead of minus 500/800.

My suspicion is to bid hearts. I mean diamonds. The right bid for the first proposal.

[Fluffy]

I disagree with or pass previous round, I think we were good enough to bid something.


I'll take that our previous pass was meant to be a pass&pull doubel to show invitational to slam, so partner pulled himself: bid slam.

5NT pick one if this is the way you play, I would just bid 6♦.

[ceeb]

1. yes
2. no -- prefer 5D
3. 6D. I was going to say that it can't be expensive (whereas defending 5S can), but after they bid 6S and I guess wrong I'll eat my words.
4. same guy?

-- Charles

[Codo]

Jlall, on Jun 21 2007, 10:37 AM, said:

Q1: Do you agree with 2S?
Q2: Do you agree with pass?
Q3: What do you do now?
Q4: WTF?!?!?!?!

A!: I prefer 3♣, but can life with 2 ♠
A2: It is forcing and 5 Club to show my second suit is nonsense so I agree
A3: Yesterday I decide twice for the slam, both failed. But maybe today 6♦
A4: WTF is WTF?

[P_Marlowe]

#1 not really, unless I am 100% sure, what the Cue
shows, I prefer to bid direct, and I have a nice bid: 3C,
partner will virually never pass
#2 Sure, what else?
#3 X, what else?
#4 ???

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Edmunte1]

1. Agree if this sets GF as it should
2. Agree, showing an offensive hand with spade shortage. I'm very glad to hear partner cooperates with 5♦ this means that he doesn't have spade wastage. But also means that he doesn't have extras, he would have bid 4NT with that
3. Though, East helped giving us an extra round of bidding space (a friend in need is a friend in-deed?), we don't have enough hcp's for driving to slam. I think it's a close call between second FP and double, and double should be the percentage call with the risk that it may make (West void in ♥, East singleton in ♦), and clubs as their secondary suit). So my choice will be a second pass.
4. Someone is trying to buy a cheap cow. I also think East has ♥ length

[bid_em_up]

Jlall, on Jun 20 2007, 08:37 PM, said:

x
Tx
AKQJxx
Axxx

white/white. You open 1D, LHO bids 1S, partner bids 2H, partnernext hand passes. You elect to bid 2S rather than 3C and partner bids 3H. RHO now jumps in with 4S! You elect to pass. Partner balances with 5D and RHO bids 5S lol.

Q1: Do you agree with 2S?
Q2: Do you agree with pass?
Q3: What do you do now?
Q4: WTF?!?!?!?!

1) No. Conditional. See below.
2) Yes.
3) Cry.
4) Exactly.



#1 is conditional as to your partnership meaning of 2S. If it is explicity seeking a spade stop for 3N, then ok. Some may play it as cue agreeing hearts. I prefer to bid out my pattern first, then hopefully bid 3S asking for stop.

Partner has show a good 6+ card suit and if it is missing an honor it is likely to be finessable in LHO's hand. I'll bite the bullet and bid 6C now. We should have 11 or 12 red suit tricks (by ruffing 1 heart if necessary), plus the club Ace. It is still barely possible partner has the spade Ace.

[pclayton]

RHO is monkeying around with something. Is this the same joker that bid the delayed 3♦ when I held the balanced 16?

The other advantage to 6♦ is that the opps may dive. Really good pards hold: x, AKxxxx, Txxx, Qx - since it seems like RHO has a very black hand.

[bid_em_up]

pclayton, on Jun 21 2007, 10:07 AM, said:

RHO is monkeying around with something. Is this the same joker that bid the delayed 3♦ when I held the balanced 16?

The other advantage to 6♦ is that the opps may dive. Really good pards hold: x, AKxxxx, Txxx, Qx - since it seems like RHO has a very black hand.

Nah, really good pards hold:

Ax AKQJxx xxx xx

[pclayton]

bid_em_up, on Jun 21 2007, 07:09 AM, said:

pclayton, on Jun 21 2007, 10:07 AM, said:

RHO is monkeying around with something. Is this the same joker that bid the delayed 3♦ when I held the balanced 16?

The other advantage to 6♦ is that the opps may dive. Really good pards hold: x, AKxxxx, Txxx, Qx - since it seems like RHO has a very black hand.

Nah, really good pards hold:

Ax AKQJxx xxx xx

Not my good pards. They are sniffing for 7 after my cue

[Gerben42]

Quote

Q1: Do you agree with 2S?
Q2: Do you agree with pass?
Q3: What do you do now?
Q4: WTF?!?!?!?!

Not really... What happened to bidding suits

RHO is slowplaying it, really I agree with Q4.
I agree with the pass of 4♠, now that partner reraised me can 6♦ be right??? Nah... I will double and lead a ♥.