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#1 User is offline   Echognome 

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Posted 2007-June-26, 01:20

Scoring: MP

P - (P) - P - (1♣)
1♦ - (1♠) - P - (3♠)
4♦ - (4♠) - P - (P)
5♣ - (5♠) - All Pass


Partner has bid an awful lot after initially passing. What is your choice of lead?
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Posted 2007-June-26, 02:19

Echognome, on Jun 26 2007, 07:20 AM, said:

Partner has bid an awful lot after initially passing.

He is not the only one :)

5♣ sounds lead directing, I'll try ♣K.
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Posted 2007-June-26, 02:19

Echognome, on Jun 26 2007, 02:20 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

P - (P) - P - (1♣)
1♦ - (1♠) - P - (3♠)
4♦ - (4♠) - P - (P)
5♣ - (5♠) - All Pass


Partner has bid an awful lot after initially passing. What is your choice of lead?

♦8. It looks like partner has 6♦ and 4-5♣. Our clubs tricks are less likely to go away...

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Posted 2007-June-26, 05:21

Pd has enough diamonds to bid 4 Diamond all on his own but did not open.
He has a hand unsuitable for an opening so maybe has a a kind of two suiter, or it is possible for him to have a hand to strong for a weak 3 or 4 Diamond but too
weak for 1 Diamond? (These hands do not exist for me, but he can be different).

I doubt that he has 7 diamonds and 4 to 5 clubs. In that case he had bid at least 3 Diamonds after the 1 Club opening.

I play him for 7 Diamonds, 4 Heart and 2 Spades and lead a club. Opps may have an undisclosed double fit and even if not, they may had finessed the king anyway.
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Posted 2007-June-26, 07:54

♣K. If partner wanted a diamond lead then he wouldn't have bid 5♣.
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Posted 2007-June-26, 12:58

Apollo81, on Jun 26 2007, 03:54 PM, said:

♣K. If partner wanted a diamond lead then he wouldn't have bid 5♣.

Good principle. When you haven't got a clear direction from your own hand, follow partners lead.
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Posted 2007-June-26, 13:06

♣K seems quite obvious after that 5♣ bid...
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Posted 2007-June-26, 14:03

5♣ isn't a lead director gang, its an offer to play. He probably has a 7-4, although I'm at a loss why he didn't preempt. I'm guessing his diamonds are moderate (although he rebid them LOL), but his clubs could be good.

Our clubs most definitely could go away on someone's hearts, or we may need a club ruff to beat this.

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Posted 2007-June-27, 00:46

pclayton, on Jun 26 2007, 08:03 PM, said:

5♣ isn't a lead director gang, its an offer to play. He probably has a 7-4, although I'm at a loss why he didn't preempt. I'm guessing his diamonds are moderate (although he rebid them LOL), but his clubs could be good.

Our clubs most definitely could go away on someone's hearts, or we may need a club ruff to beat this.

♣K

4NT was there to offer clubs as well.
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Posted 2007-June-27, 02:18

I lost the hand record, but the hands were something like:



Our declarer managed to hand us back a trick to just make, but the lead could certainly have been a disaster. Gonzalo's point about 4NT/5♣ is interesting. I definitely read 5♣ more as lead directing.
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Posted 2007-June-27, 18:03

I was willing to bet a lot before seeing all hands that I would be disagreeing with partner's bidding, and indeed I do...
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Posted 2007-June-27, 18:33

cherdano, on Jun 28 2007, 01:03 AM, said:

I was willing to bet a lot before seeing all hands that I would be disagreeing with partner's bidding, and indeed I do...

same here, since echo knows what a 5♣ bid means :)
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Posted 2007-June-27, 18:43

Echognome, on Jun 26 2007, 02:20 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

P - (P) - P - (1♣)
1♦ - (1♠) - P - (3♠)
4♦ - (4♠) - P - (P)
5♣ - (5♠) - All Pass


Partner has bid an awful lot after initially passing. What is your choice of lead?

IMO ♠ = 10, ♦ = 9, ♣ = 5
You hope to get in with ♣ K to lead another trump.
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