[plaur]

Scoring: MP

p-1♠-2♦- p
p-2♠ -p -?

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Is this a 3 ♣ bid?
If not how close is it?

[Gerben42]

3♣. Majors only count more if the contract makes.

[gwnn]

weaker hand's trumps should be played in general and this is definitely not an exception.

[jdonn]

I'll pass. I have an ace and a spade, not sure why 2♠ wouldn't make. I pull with KQJTxxx of clubs where my hand might very well be useless to partner. I don't think pulling is awful though, I mean you might just strike a fit and find something big on a good day.

[P_Marlowe]

Pass.

3C has to play better than 2S by at least
3 tricks.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[gwnn]

P_Marlowe, on Sep 15 2008, 01:39 PM, said:

Pass.

3C has to play better than 2S by at least
3 tricks.

With kind regards
Marlowe

surely you mean 2?

[P_Marlowe]

gwnn, on Sep 15 2008, 06:49 AM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Sep 15 2008, 01:39 PM, said:

Pass.

3C has to play better than 2S by at least
3 tricks.

With kind regards
Marlowe

surely you mean 2?

Could be, I was meditating about it for a
couble of minutes, ...
... thinking again about it, you are right.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[mcphee]

Pass, I do not see where partner invited my opinion. As they say, you have bought yourself a dummy pard, gl.

[jtfanclub]

I'd bid 3♣, because I like my spots. Even across a small singleton, I think I only have two club losers, for 4 more winners in clubs if clubs are trump. I'm going to take my chances that partner doesn't have 4 more tricks if spades are trump- that I can make the spades good even if clubs are trump. With worse spots I wouldn't risk it.

Usually when I have a weak freak like this hand, the bidding moves faster- after all, one or more players has shortness in an unbid suit. So I have one of those weird suspicions that my partner has some diamonds and overcaller's partner has some spades. Normally, it shouldn't make any difference, but if I think LHO tends to go one to many, I'll bid 3♣. On the other hand, if I think that partner tends to overcompete, I'd pass 2♠. I do not want partner bidding over 3♦!

[mike777]

I would pass

the bidding might not be over and this is MP...so I play in the major with strong hand on lead.

[pclayton]

It's very possible pard didn't double because he has a little diamond length.

3♣ might play better and it might not. Or, pard may run to 3♠.

I think I'll plug in my earphones and let pard play this one.

It is somewhat close. Add the ♣Q and I'm a bidder (3N is starting to look possible).

[the hog]

3C for me. If pd has some D length as per Phil's suggestion as seems possible, then this hand will play far better in Cs.

[jdonn]

The_Hog, on Sep 15 2008, 08:04 PM, said:

3C for me. If pd has some D length as per Phil's suggestion as seems possible, then this hand will play far better in Cs.

I fully concede the hand may play better in clubs, but I don't see the correlation of that to partner's diamond length. Are you saying if partner had diamond shortness it would probably play better in spades?