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Posted 2009-November-16, 03:02

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west open 1H,and pd db, east pass,it is your turn(south),2d or 3d?
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Posted 2009-November-16, 03:03

3!D
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Posted 2009-November-16, 03:04

3♦. The hand looks very nice with values in the long suits and no wasted values opposite partner's presumed heart shortage.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 04:49

3D.

The reason is simple, 2D showes nothing, not even a 5 card suit.

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Posted 2009-November-16, 07:25

3 seems like a no-brainer. If pard has a 4144 (even if min) the hand is worth zillions.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 10:48

I think we can all agree, looks like exactly what you want for 3♦.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 10:58

3D, unless you are shellshocked by pard's previous takeout doubles.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 11:07

3D and even if its going down youre probably ok because they are likely to reach a making 2S or 2H if you only bid 2D.

(1H)-----X--------(P)---------2D
(X)-------P--------(2S)

or

(1H)-----X--------(P)---------2D
(P)-------P--------(X) (with 4/5S 2H + little values)
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Posted 2009-November-16, 12:08

3♦ WTP?
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Posted 2009-November-16, 12:11

3♦. This is a minimum.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 13:26

whereagles, on Nov 16 2009, 02:25 PM, said:

3 seems like a no-brainer. If pard has a 4144 (even if min) the hand is worth zillions.

That's a very 1980s argument. Are people even dealt 4144 shapes over 1♥ any more?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-November-16, 13:41

gnasher, on Nov 16 2009, 07:26 PM, said:

whereagles, on Nov 16 2009, 02:25 PM, said:

3 seems like a no-brainer. If pard has a 4144 (even if min) the hand is worth zillions.

That's a very 1980s argument. Are people even dealt 4144 shapes over 1♥ any more?

They are. Usually in the 9-10 hcp range. Doesn't stop them from doubling :rolleyes:
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